Spl 2007/08

Huns got off to a 3-0 win away to ICT. Watched the first half hour or so and Caley Thistle were dreadful - particularly at the back where they left Boyd in acres of space the whole time. Hard to read too much into Rangers’ performance, especially having seen only 30 minutes, but they’ll certainly have more bite about them this year than under the Le Guen regime.

Gretna got their season off to a start. Their manager who has been “on leave” turned up to take his place in the dugout and was refused entry to the ground, because he’s effectively been sacked - just nobody has bothered to tell him yet. Not sure what the full background is but he went off on leave around April or so and he claims it’s not stress related. Harsh to get rid of him considering he brought them up through the divisions but they’ve hardly any chance of staying up anyway. They lost 3-0 “at home” today (they’re not allowed to play at their own ground) to Falkirk, who were unbelievably priced at 7/4.

Elsewhere Dundee United beat Motherwell 1-0: bit of a surprise that. They did it with 10 men after Bandage’s tip for the future, Willo Flood, was sent off before half time - two yellow cards, one for diving. And Motherwell won 1-0 at St Mirren.

In the first division Hamilton won 2-1 at home to Dunfermline which was a bit surprising too (McCarthy only played the last 20 minutes by the way). The other contenders before the start of the season were St Johnstone who got 2 late goals to draw 3-3 with QOTS.

Huns are in a bit of trouble over sectarian singning at the game yeseterday. New SPL rules mean they can be deducted points for it:

Rangers win but face sectarian probe
By Michael Grant

CHANTING MARS 3-0 OPENING DAY VICTORY IN INVERNESS

RANGERS WILL be reported to the SPL for offensive singing by their supporters during yesterday’s victory at Inverness Caledonian Thistle.

SPL match delegate Alan Dick will include references to songs sung by the 2,500-strong Rangers support in his report which the governing body will receive on Tuesday. That means Rangers may be the first club to fall foul of legislation introduced during the close season to punish “unacceptable conduct” by supporters. The range of penalties available against a guilty club includes fines, the closure of all or parts of a stadium, the docking of points and even, for repeat offenders, expulsion from the league.

Rangers have been previously fined and warned by Uefa for discriminatory chanting in European ties against Villarreal and Osasuna but yesterday may lead to the watershed of them being punished for similar offences by Scottish football authorities.

This game showed the significance of the new SPL rule: Rangers are suddenly at risk of sanctions for exactly the same repertoire of songs which has been familiar at their games for years. Fans sang Derry’s Walls and The Sash, adding a line insulting the Pope, among other songs during yesterday’s 3-0 victory. Those would make the club vulnerable to punishment if a decision is reached that they fell foul of the SPL rule. It would not have to be established that the songs were “sectarian” for Rangers be at risk of punishment, only that they were “offensive”.
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If the SPL decides Rangers have a case to answer from Inverness, a three-man independent commission will investigate the matter fully. The commission may be chaired by a law lord and will have no input from anyone connected with any of the 12 member clubs. The commission will also decide on the appropriate punishment.

If they were found guilty Rangers could minimise any potential disciplinary action by highlighting the club’s ongoing anti-sectarianism initiatives. Neither Rangers nor any other club are guaranteed to be punished simply because their fans sing offensive songs, but they certainly will be risking major disciplinary action if they cannot prove they are doing everything possible to stamp it out.

SPL chief executive Iain Blair said last night: “When I receive the report from Alan Dick I will look at it. If there is a problem it will be put to an independent commission under a legally-qualified chairman. That will investigate it and hear all the evidence before making a decision on whether rules have been breached. If there has been a breach they can apply sanctions. If there are sanctions against a club the club has the right to appeal to the SFA.”

A Rangers spokesman said: “The club is wholly committed to continuing its efforts to eradicate inappropriate behaviour. We will look into the circumstances surrounding today’s game.”

Disappointing nil all draw at home for Celtic against Killie. A good few chances - notably for Magic, Jan and Brown but we never really looked like taking them. They defended very well in fairness to them and didn’t give us a moment in the box but we should still have enough to beat them.

Ratings:

Brown - 7: not much to do but came off his line well to prevent a couple of half chances
Wilson - 6: one excellent saving tackle in the first half to stop Johnstone but let down by his crossing which was erratic
McManus - 6: defended fine for the most part but sold himself once badly
Kennedy - 6: fine defensively and had a couple of chances in their box that McManus would probably have stuck away.
[On the centre halves they had one chance in the second half for Nish where McManus came over and covered but they had another striker in the box completely unmarked which was worrying]
Naylor - 6: got stuck in admirably but his touch desserted him going forward

McGeady - 8: easily had the better of Lilley and linked up well with the forwards. Starting this season on great form
Donati - 6: comfortable on the ball and kept us going forward but faded a bit
Hartley - 5: got stuck in once excellently but his use of possession was poor and his set pieces were awful.
Brown - 7: plenty of energy and some decent runs. Nearly scored at the end and always looks dangerous

Jan - 7: won plenty in the air and ran the channels and picked up and held up a lot of loose ball. Needed a partner to play off his knock downs however because too often he was flicking the ball for himself to run onto. Should have scored with a first half volley that he squared instead of shooting.
Magic - 5: did ok for most of the first half and like Jan he should have scored from his chance. As the half went on he seemed to lose interest. Got two cracking chances in the second half which he missed and then he went out of the game completely, giving the ball away and failing to put in any work.

SUBS:

Naka - 7: class act on the ball. Taking off Donati ahead of Hartley was simply inexplicable however.
Killen - 6: won a couple of tussles with his marker but he was played in once by Naka and never even looked like shooting never mind scoring as he jogged after the ball. Doesn’t work alongside Jan although I understand the strategy. It was very wet and they were playing very deep so there was no point in bringing Miller on to run in behind because anything that went beyond their defenders was always going to be a goal kick.

Frustrating match overall but there’s plenty to work on. Still crying out for a strike partner for Jan. Some vulnerabilities at the back but hopefully they’ll be ironed out with experience as Mick and JFK build a partnership.

Just found out there the Huns won 7-2 at home today.

I wouldn’t like Celtic to fall 4+ points behind them so it’s pretty imperative that we win up in Aberdeen tomorrow.

It’ll be difficult given the bhoys’ exertions in Moscow the other night but it’s early in the season so fatigue shouldn’t be a factor and we were quite adept at getting ourselves right for post European games last year so there’s no reason why we shouldn’t be able to do it again this season.

The Huns have improved as expected but they still don’t concern me. If they’re still undefeated by the time we play them on October 21 then maybe I’ll start to consider them a threat but the league is played over 38 games and I’m not worried because they’ve racked up successive home wins against St Mirren and Falkirk.

In fact I think they’re fooking shit.

They were 3-2 up with 20 minutes to go and just cruised the last quarter of the match. Still not worried about them. They have more enthusiasm about them this season but in their two European home matches so far they’ve struggled. They’re away to Killie next week which will be their toughest game so far (though not particularly difficult) then Gretna at home and then the week after the internationals they’re away to Hearts.

We’ve Hearts at home next week (live on thefreekick.com), then away to St Mirren and then home to ICT. 9 points from that and 3 at Aberdeen today and we’ll be cruising irrespective of how many points the Huns have picked up over the same period.

Graeme Spiers’ book on Paul Le Guen’s spectacularly unsuccessful spell in charge of the Huns at this link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FWIZWDTL.

A very entertaining game today. It occured to me today how much more enjoyable the matches at Ibrox, Pittodrie, Tynecastle and to a lesser extent Easter Road are in comparison to the other SPL grounds. The atmosphere is always good with an excellent volume of away support. This contributes to a quicker more enjoyable game on the park. The matches at these grounds are always very competitive and have a bite to them that you rarely get at other grounds.
Some observations:
McManus and Wilson played very well. Both have been criticised for lack of ability but their determination and bravery are qualities which are vital for defenders and these two players have these qualities in abundance.
Caldwell annoyed me today. It is a bit of a clique at this stage to say he is a footballing centre half. When I hear people saying that about players it usually puts me off them. On countless occasions Caldwell went for a very precise pass up to McDonald or Jvoh. He was passing to these players who had their backs to the goal and had little support. Each time Caldwell went for this pass Aberdeen’s goalkeeper or defenders cleaned up and pressure was put straight back on us. Far better options for Caldwell would be to pass the ball to one of our midfielders or if this isn’t on hit the ball into Aberdeen’s corner and allow our strikers to box them in. I fear what Moscow would have done with the ball Caldwell gave away today. He fancies himself far too much imo and he should learn from what McManus does well and apply them to his own game which has good potential in some areas. I think O’Dea is a more balanced player than either McManus or Caldwell. He can defend and use the ball when its sensible to do so.
Naylor’s confidence is low at present and some of his distrubtion today was very poor. This was masked a bit last year when he had greater levels of determination that made him more of an asset than he is at present. He either needs to get his old attitude back or be dropped. His lack of fighting spirit is actually effecting his confidence on the ball at the moment imo. Too many players come to Celtic from England and have a great first season only to fall away after that. I hope Naylor recovers his old form.
McGeady came inside too often today. Some lovely distribtion at times though. His ability to pick a pass is being rewarded more this season with McGeady playing with better attackers in midfield.
Brown played well. He keeps the ball very well and his runs into the box should be continued and once other Celtic players get used to this they will be more benefitial.
Donati had a poor first half but he really has a bit of class about him. His composure to pick out Miller for his first goal was particulalry special
Naka was tidy but quiet. He makes other players play better though with his one touch football
Jvoh played the best I’ve seen him play this season. Linked up well with McDonald. Not sure they get on though.
McDonald is a class act imo. He is very strong and has a lovely touch. He should have done better with that header in the first half. I love the way he likes a moan at the ref in a constructive way. He was right to be disappointed when he was taken off but this shows his strength of character. He wasn’t resting on his laurels after Moscow for sure. His attitude reminds me a lot of John Aldridge.
Miller took his goals very well. Seems to have a good bit of confidence at present and is well ahead of Magic now. Don’t think he is near the player McDonald is though.

Post edited by: thepiedpiper, at: 2007/08/19 16:37

Agree with about 20% of that Piper.

My thoughts:

  1. Thoroughly enjoyable game. Cracking atmosphere as you say and the Celtic fans were in cracking voice all game - even when we were one down and struggling. To be fair the atmosphere was helped by the pace of the game which was excellent. They started very well and put us under huge pressure but both teams were playing great football. Pity it clashed with the Manchester derby because that was a brilliant advert for the SPL I thought.

  2. Player Ratings:

Boruc - 6 no chance with the goal. Nearly let one slip past him from Mackie but recovered well and with a bit of panache. Made one decent punch in the second half from a decent cross and seemed to keep the defence well organised.

Wilson - 7 defensively very sound - forced Jamie Smith out of the game. Needs to work a bit more on his distribution but looks much fitter and aggressive in the last couple of games. Should have read the threat better for their goal and come into mark Brewster.

Naylor - 6.5 defended reasonably but was caught out a bit for the goal where he was indecisive. Other than that he was fine defensively and worked hard on the left flank. He put in a couple of poor crosses but he got up and down the line very well all day. For the Donati goal for example he was only in room in the box because Naylor made a late purposeful run down the left which kept Hart honest. Thought he had a better attitude today as well. Got caught late once as he was clearing it and he just got up and got on with it. Lately he’s been overplaying those knocks like some sort of Cashley Cole superstar. Room for improvement but that was better.

Caldwell - 8 Thought he was excellent today. I’ve just read Piper’s piece and I’ll concede his distribution was poor. However you have to remember that last season he was taking on a bigger passing role when he was playing because the midfield was Lennon and Jarosik/Hartley/Gravesen who didn’t move the ball the way Donati does. He won nearly every header he contested, he made a couple of smashing big tackles and he covered very well. I think we looked more organised with him back there and I was very encouraged by that performance in his first game at centre half in months.

McManus - 7 Like Caldwell he defended most things well in the air but he didn’t win as many tackles or headers today. He and Naylor were indecisive for their goal. Neither of them decided who to mark and it ended with McManus neither closing the ball down or staying with Mackie - which meant Caldwell had to come across to try and block Mackie and Brewster was free. McManus needs to take more responsibility for picking men up in the box but his commitment and effort are first class.

McGeady - 7 Quiet first half and he might have been stronger on the ball for their goal though he was fouled. Came into it far more in the second half, especially after the switch to the right hand side. The initial reason Strachan has for playing McGeady on the wrong side is that it allows him to drift in onto his strong foot. It can be frustrating but you could see how he naturally left his wing in the second half from the right to be a threat in central areas.

Unlike piper I saw this as a good think. McNamara was supposed to be marking him but he didn’t know what to do and McGeady got some great possession. Did well for the first goal and other things didn’t come off for him but he’s playing some very intelligent passes this year.

Nakamura - 8.5 Excellent performance from Naka but can we please have another free kick taker? 30 yards out and only a wall and a keeper in the way and he manages to crack it off the bar! Like McGeady he was far more dangerous when he switched sides though he had a better first half than Aiden when he linked up well with Jan and McDonald in particular. Great composure for the second goal and he was always dangerous.

Brown - 7 Quiet enough performance. Held his position in the second half when we were pouring men forward which was the right thing to do but still found time to make a few great runs into the box that unfortunately weren’t seen on time. More to come I hope.

Donati - 9 Superb. Made a few decent interceptions first half when we were on the back foot and uses the ball very well most of the time. Developing an understanding with those around him and you could see how much himself and Naka were learning as the game went on. Took his goal superbly but his involvement in the second goal was just as important and just as composed.

McDonald - 7.5 Not quite his day. Holds the ball up quite well actually and shows a good understanding with Jan. Didn’t really get many chances in behind however and should have put away that header in the first half. Impressive overall.

Jan - 7.5 I haven’t been on the usual Celtic sites yet but hope he’s not getting the usual lack of appreciation. Worked very hard again, winning countless flick ons and creating little half chances around the edge of the box for Naka, Donati and McGeady. They are much better players when they know they always have the option of the little dink into Jan and he was unlucky not to get any great chances from his control in and around the box. One decent chance in the first half which he sidefooted wide.

Miller - 8.5 When he plays well he’s brilliant. He’s a confidence player and deserves to play when he’s on form. Ran very hard and put himself about up there but really it’s about scoring and he did that superbly. Took the first goal very well with great composure in front of goal to just pass that home. Like Falkirk last week that was actually a difficult chance. His second goal was a fantastic effort.

  1. Further thoughts: We still have one or two shaky moments defensively but it looks like Caldwell/McManus is the partnership with Kennedy, Pressley and O’Dea battling it out for first sub. I think O’Dea is the best of that trio at the moment but he obviously needs games. Pressley has been dropped way down the pecking order on the back of a poor pre-season and many doubted Strachan would ever drop him. That said Kennedy hasn’t been hugely impressive (he’s still only played maybe 15 first team games for Celtic so he has plenty of time to improve) so I wouldn’t be surprised or disappointed if Pressley was ahead of him at this stage.

The priority has to be dealing with crosses. That was our downfall against Falkirk and the cause of our goal conceded in Moscow. Mackie had a great chance for them at 1-1 when nobody picked him up. Couldn’t tell from the replay whether he had escaped McManus or Caldwell but it’s happening too often.

That said one of our weaknesses in the past was guys running down the channels and we were better at defending that today. Still again their goal was preventable through better organisation and in the second half Mackie had a shot wide at the near post when played through. That time Caldwell stepped up to press the ball because Brewster (I think it was) picked it up in a dangerous area. As he did this Mackie drifted to where Caldwell had been and McManus was slow to react. He got there in the end but a better striker might have been through on goal.

  1. That guy shouting at Strachan looked like such a prick.

  2. Great post-match interview from Donati. “I play not good first half. Then I see Paul 'Artley get ready and I think maybe I go out so I think I will score now and I do.”

Goals from www.letthepeoplesing.com :

http://www.letthepeoplesing.com/videos/General_Football/Aberdeen_1_Celtic_3_goals

Post match interview with Tommy Burns on BBC here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/sport/football/audio/113000/nb/113882_au_nb.asx

Post edited by: therock67, at: 2007/08/19 19:21

Just a couple more things that occur to me about the match:

  1. We played some scintillating football in the second half from just before we scored until the end. Last season we were criticised for being boring and after the Killie game the worry was that we’d be the same again but we were carving them open today with lovely passing football. We have so many players comfortable on the ball now.

  2. We have an incredibly young team when you think about it. I think in the post-match interview on Setanta that Burns said it was 23 or 24 but I think it’s a small bit older than that - not much though.

Looking at today’s team we had:

Boruc 26/27
Wilson 23
McManus 23
Caldwell 25
Naylor 26
Naka 28
Brown 23
Donati 26
McGeady 21
JvOH 28
Miller 26

Naka and Jan are the veterans at 28.

Good analysis there bhoys. As you say that was an absolutely superb game of football. I also thought it was a huge victory in the end too given our exertions on Wednesday night in Eastern Europe with the temperature and state of the pitch there and considering we were behind at half time and the physicality of the Aberdeen challenge.

Donati had some second half - it was the complete midfield performance. He was astounding positionally to intercept their passes, strong in the tackle, crisp and imaginative with his passing and relentless driving forward. He took his goal beautifully too and was excellent for Miller’s to make it 2-1.

Naka was sublime also. His pure footballing ability is a complete joy to watch. Aiden frustrated me at times today but the switch worked and he kept working hard and it paid dividends when he set up the equaliser. I also thought Jan put in a great effort upfront.

Our determination and desire not to get beaten is incredibly impressive. We upped it massively in the second half which was a smashing effort after the Spartak game. I agree that Caldwell was very solid defensively and strong in the air and in the tackle but he also annoyed with his distribution when we were 1-0 down. Overall it was a good comeback though.

Super to have Artur back and another great moment from him when he stopped that ball on the line.

Those cunts having a go at Strachan and getting the police involved were absolutely pathetic. Pricks.

Finally, what a cameo by Miller. Two excellent finishes to cap a wonderful second half team display.

Post edited by: Bandage, at: 2007/08/19 23:59

Massimo’s interview:

http://letthepeoplesing.com/videos/Celtic_Video/massimo_the_snipin_provo_interview

Quality stuff from the Italian sniper.

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/display.var.1629414.0.0.php

GORDON STRACHAN will be allowed to take his place in the dugout this weekend’s game against Hearts - and for the foreseeable future.

The Celtic boss faces a record-breaking 10-game ban after being sent to the stand during yesterday’s 3-1 win at Pittodrie.

He already has a four-match suspension hanging over him for a sending off during a game against Hearts in April.

And, in line with the automatic two-game increase laid down by the SFA, he is in line to serve a further six games in the stand for yesterday’s red card.

Strachan immediately appealed last season’s four-game ban, and this was due to be heard at a Disciplinary Committee meeting tomorrow.

But, the ref who sent him off at Parkhead, Stuart Dougal, can’t make this hearing due to business commitments. so it has been postponed to a date still to be arranged.

As the length of the automatic suspension Strachan would receive for yesterday’s dismissal is dependent on the outcome of the appeal against his previous charge, the Sfa have decreed that this too will be held in abeyance.

And, if as expected, Strachan elects to appeal against any ban for the Pittodrie sending off by ref Charlie Richmond, this could delay the matter even longer.

Aberdeen today stood by their steward in the row raging over Strachan’s red card.

The SFA are still awaiting the ref’s report. Of even more interest to the Disciplinary Committee will be fourth official John Underhill’s input, as he is understood to be supporting Strachan’s version of events.

Ref Richmond took this action four minutes from full time. He considered Strachan was guilty of leaving the technical area as he climbed the two steps behind the away dugout to remonstrate with an Aberdeen steward.

That steward, now identified as George Morrison, had come down from the back of the main stand in an attempt to report assistant manager Garry Pendrey to a police officer for allegedly giving a V’ sign to the home support after Kenny Miller had put Celtic 2-1 up.
Celtic have denied Morrison’s accusations, but Aberdeen operations manager John Morgan said: “The steward acted after members of the public made complaints about the behaviour of some Celtic officials. I believe George’s version of what went on.”

In a further twist, the Pittodrie club believe SPL delegate Willie McDougall could cite other members of the Celtic bench for what he considered to be inflammatory gestures.

But Celtic reckon Strachan has an ally in fourth official Underhill - who initially drew Richmond’s attention to the problem and who is understood to support the manager’s plea in mitigation that he was defending his assistant.

It is crucial for Strachan he has this latest red card overturned as it automatically brings him a six-match ban.

Any suspension would be reduced to four games if Strachan wins the appeal against the Hearts sending off.

Strachan is confident he can have the April four-game suspension overturned as he is challenging referee Dougal’s version of events during the Hearts game when he was alleged to have made derogatory remarks as the visitors were about to bring on sub Neil McCann.

Dougal was also the ref who sent him to the stand for the first time at Tynecastle in his first season in charge following a touchline spat with then-Hearts assistant John McGlynn. For that offence, Strachan was banned for two games.

Another blatant and despicable example of the bias against Celtic in the Scottish media. Just because the Huns have already been cited because of the sectarian behaviour of their supporters in their only away game so far they almost immediately attempt to drag Celtic into it by accusing the support yesterday of sectarian chanting even though the accusation is a complete lie and without any foundation.

http://www.letthepeoplesing.com/videos/Celtic_Video/Scotland_Today_Sports

The part where they alledge sectarian singing that’s slowed down on the piece is actually the support singing ‘Bring on the Hearts, the Hibs, the Rangers’ and it comes out perfectly clear too.

I hope Celtic have their legal team on this straight away. As soon as there’s the threat of a points penalty hanging over Rangers they rush to implicate Celtic. Disgraceful stuff.

Meanwhile the official match delegate had already confirmed early this afternoon that Celtic and their support have absolutely no charges to answer. From the Celtic site:

fans praised again for good conduct

CELTIC supporters have again been praised for their behaviour following todays victory over Aberdeen.

Gordon Strachans side came back from a goal down to win 3-1 at Pittodrie and the large travelling support played their part.

Speaking after the game, Celtic Chief Executive Peter Lawwell said: Once again our supporters were a great credit to themselves and the club.

We are delighted with the manner in which they backed the team and helped drive them on to victory.

As ever our supporters have travelled to a game in large numbers, many from a long distance away, and the club would like to thank them for their efforts.

Its been a great week for the club, with victories at Falkirk and Aberdeen and a tremendous performance and result in Russia against Spartak Moscow, and our fans should be proud of the part they have played.

New guidelines about unacceptable conduct at football stadia in Scotland have recently been introduced.

And the SPL match observer at Pittodrie also reported that the authorities were entirely satisfied with the behaviour and conduct of the Celtic supporters.

Complete arseholes at STV. Claim they understand there’s a report on the way. It’s already been issued and it praised the fans. Far too fecking eager to try and paint Rangers and Celtic with the same brush.

Graham Spiers article:

When fans are on receiving end, theyre so quick to go blubbing

BY GRAHAM SPIERS

I have to be honest, I savoured the sight of Gordon Strachan and Garry Pendrey jointly giving what for to that jumped-up marshal in the main stand during those final moments of mayhem at Pittodrie on Sunday.

What was the bloke in the stand thinking of? OK, managers and coaches should desist from making any sort of gesture to the crowd, but what kind of mindset causes a marshal in a football stand to rush down a staircase and start jabbing his finger at a dugout? You would almost think the bloke at Pittodrie had a pathological hatred of Strachan or Celtic.

Is it just me, or isnt there something absolutely delicious about a coach or manager being allowed to give back to a crowd what crowds have traditionally seen as their divine right to dish out?

I have always found it hilarious the way many football fans are big enough and hearty enough to dole out terrible stick, but then suddenly turn into a bunch of wounded ballet critics the moment that venom is turned back on themselves.

I have always secretly admired managers who are prepared to take on a crowd at their own game. Some years back I remember Dick Advocaat at Ibrox rounding on a group of Rangers fans in the Ibrox enclosure, who had been giving Sergio Porrini some fearful stick, and giving them a dose of their own medicine. As only Wee Dick could chest puffed out, forearms pumping in true Mussolini style he gave that enclosure what for. The fans looked a mite taken aback when Advocaat in turn laid into them.

On another vivid occasion, this time at Fir Park, I remember Alex McLeish getting into an altercation with some Motherwell fans over the stick they were doling out to Andy Roddie, a particularly ill-fated Motherwell winger of the time.

Some of you may be familiar with that main stand at Fir Park: it can sometimes match the lost civilisation once known as Broomfield Park, Airdrie, for sheer undiluted venom. More pertinently, there are a bunch of seats right behind the home dugout that make for the perfect spot to hurl abuse and contempt at any home player whom you feel is letting the cause down.

That day at Fir Park, poor Roddie was being mercilessly hounded.

For his part, McLeish in particular felt it, because he had signed Roddie from Aberdeen, and not for peanuts, but for 100,000 (try that at Motherwell these days). All of a sudden McLeish rounded on the main stand and, jabbing his finger at one group of fans, started shouting: Gie him a break! Just youse gie him a break!

The moral never seems to change: fans can wade in among players, coaches and managers with any degree of verbal savagery but, as Tommy Burns said yesterday, the moment a coach or a player responds in type, the supporters go blubbing to the police.

The finest example I believe Ive seen of this was an hilarious episode at Ibrox nearly four years ago, when Neil Lennon, then the Celtic captain, was receiving dogs abuse from thousands of Rangers fans, not a lot of it unrelated to his ethnic or denominational background.

Lennon, as he does, withstood the barrage of abuse almost in semi-enjoyment, before having the temerity then to shout something equally unsavoury back as he disappeared down the Ibrox tunnel at the end of the game.

My goodness . . . the hurt, the deep hurt, caused by Lennons comment among his accusers! A group of Rangers fans went off and called in a lip-reader to prove that Lennon had been rude to them. As Lennon quipped later: I certainly didnt need a lip-reader to work out what 30,000 of them were shouting at me . . .

The best story told about the ludicrous grievances of fans was related by Tony Higgins, these days a trade union official on behalf of Europes professional footballers, but back in the glory days a 15st slacker who led Partick Thistles attack to repeated near-glory.

Higgins was walking off the Firhill pitch a beaten man for the umpteenth time when a Thistle diehard began savaging him, with plenty uses of the F-word and the C-word, over his woeful play.

The rant having lasted a good while, Higgins responded with something akin to: Right, thats it, Im going to report you to the psychiatric unit of Strathclydes new mental health division, and specifically ask that they monitor your behaviour for a period of 12 months . . . If only.

Quite a few people in football need to get their heads in order and they are not always the blokes down in the technical areas.

I see things are not looking rosy exactly for Paul Le Guen at Paris Saint-Germain. His team have accumulated three points from a possible 12 so far and have managed just a single league goal. At this rate, my planned dinner with Le Guen before the France-Scotland match next month is going to go down the pan. Even more worryingly, I have just dispatched a book to PLG about his career and his time at Rangers. Now that I think about it, Ill just cancel that Paris dinner table.

Another good Spiers article there.

FROM STV WEBSITE:

‘The Scottish Premier League will not launch a probe into alleged sectarian singing by Celtic supporters at Pittodrie on Sunday. Scotland Today has been told that there is nothing the SPL has which would prompt an investigation.’

No apology though. Conniving fooks.

Excellent statement from Celtic:

celtic football club statement

FOLLOWING erroneous and irresponsible reporting on last night’s Scotland Today programme (Monday, August 20), suggesting that the “SPL is set to launch an investigation into sectarian chanting by Celtic fans,” the Club is compelled to make the following statement.

'Celtic fans were once again magnificent in their support of the team at Pittodrie on Sunday. This followed fantastic support in Moscow on Wednesday and at Falkirk last Saturday.

However, in an isolated incident a Celtic supporter was identified by a Celtic travelling steward as engaging in unacceptable conduct. This person was reported to the police and subsequently arrested.

An SPL Spokesperson commented: “The SPL have no plans whatsoever to investigate the behaviour of Celtic fans at Sunday’s match and at no time have we suggested that we might do so. Indeed the Delegates report complimented the behaviour of the Celtic fans and Celtic security procedures.”

Outwith the single arrest made, the Grampian Police Match Commander has also expressed his satisfaction with the Celtic support, their behaviour and the Celtic stewarding operation.

Celtic Football Club expects a full retraction from Scotland Today.

Celtic Football Club will continue to work strenuously against all forms of unacceptable conduct, as it has done for many years.’

Hearts/Huns tomorrow at 12.30pm.

A Celtic supporter from eastern europe on another forum asked what these games were like and got the following reply:

‘It’s like a cross between a homosexual wedding and a loyalist feud.’

How very apt.

Celtic at home to Caley Thistle then at 3pm.

a little harsh on homosxcual weddings