Stupid Government

Just when you think the gobshites in the government could get any more stupid they then come out with this report on the reform of Local Councils which includes putting tolls on N roads and charge anyone who pays there motor tax by going into the motor tax rather than paying online €10. Where do they find these muppets?

The greens are a poison on our society, there misunderstanding of rural life is only one of several short sighted outlooks they have.


I could see the Government being heavily sued for the carry on of Gormless in relation to this incinerator in Poolbeg.


I think Gormless is out of his depth in office. Everything he touches seems to go wrong. He has to be the worst minister in the Government and that would be some feat considering that O’Cuiv and Coughlan are also ministers.

Kev is poison on this site. His misunderstanding of the there/their distinction is only one of the several short sighted outlooks he has.

All joking aside, Gormley’s solo run on Poolbeg is the biggest NIMBY crusade I’ve ever seen. I know he’s fighting for his career but ffs, he’s going to cost the country millions if he reneges on this contract.

It’s crazy, I’m pretty sure this company will be well within their right to sue to fuck out of us if it doesn’t go ahead.

I would say even if it’s delayed they’ll get millions. Gormley isn’t dealing with the ICC netting hares here, you can’t stall the ball on big companies like this and expect no repercussions. If this incinerator was anywhere else he’d have had no problem. The man is a total sell-out cunt.

A living, thriving urban area like Ringsend is no place for an incinerator like this, it would have an intolerable effect on the local community. Somewhere like Ballydoyle in Tipperary or Martinstown in Limerick would be much more suitable locations.


It’s called Ringsend for a reason.

Gormley deserves credit for standing up to bullies. It’s a refreshing change to see a politician with a spine.

As for the location, Martinstown sounds perfect to me. It’s near a railway line too so would be a great way of revitalising rail freight transport and would be a much needed source of employment for the local area. Fuck knows, the area needs it, because none of the local gombeens are going to provide employment.

They tried to build one in Ballydoyle but the council knocked it on the head in the end. You have to abide by the rule of law and Gormley isn’t doing that here, he’s trying to rule by dictation. The man is a thundering disgrace.

Very low-quality post.

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Gormley is a fuckwit. This is only play acting, basically the contracts have been signed and the incinerator is going to be built, all Gormless is doing is trying to curry favour with the residents by trying to stall it and when Cowen says “Gormless you fucking gobshite, issue the poxy licence” he can turn around and say that he was forced to do it. By right the incinerator should have been built in the middle of the country around Athlone so that all the other councils could dump there as well. If Gormless meant business he would walk out of government right now?


Dublin City Council have given two fingers Gormless in relation to the Poolbeg Incinerator. They have gone ahead and issued a CPO for 2.5 acres of land, meaning that they are no longer subject to this “foreshore licence” that Gormley was using to delay the project.

Full details here. :clap: :clap:

ENVIRONMENT Minister John Gormley was handed a humiliating defeat last night in a long-running battle to stop construction of an incinerator in his constituency.

In a dramatic move, Dublin City Council said it was tired of his delaying tactics and issued a compulsory purchase order (CPO) to buy 2.5 acres of land to build the Poolbeg plant, completely removing him from the picture.

Mr Gormley was required to approve a foreshore licence to allow construction of a water cooling system needed for the €200m treatment facility.

But by seeking to buy the land, the council will not need the licence. It means there is no legal impediment to construction and works could begin before the end of the year.

The move came after the council’s joint venture partner, US company Covanta Energy, asked the local authority to “get the ball rolling”.

“It’s an indication of the frustration,” a source said. “There’s a strong view about how the matter (of the licence) has been handled.”

The company suggested it could sue for breach of contract if the plant did not go ahead. Around 600 construction jobs are promised and 60 full-time posts when it is completed.

It also follows the intervention of US ambassador Dan Rooney, who became involved in moves to stop Mr Gormley blocking the scheme.

It will come as a blow to the minister, who has repeatedly opposed construction, saying it is too big for the city’s needs.

Sources close to Mr Gormley said the move was not unexpected, as the council had indicated it might circumvent the foreshore licence process.

But the council was slammed by opponents of the plant last night, with Fine Gael TD Lucinda Creighton accusing it of trying to “force the minister’s hand”.

And the group representing private waste operators, the Irish Waste Management Association, accused the local authority of arrogance.

“Dublin City Council is behaving in an exceptionally arrogant manner,” spokesman Brendan Keane said. “It continues to plough ahead with the construction of a grossly oversized incinerator which will be bad for taxpayers and bad for employment.”

The council, headed up by city manager John Tierney, has been determined to pursue its incinerator plan. In February, Mr Tierney wondered “why the project is being subjected to so many obstacles and why attempts are being made to penalise the Dublin local authorities for implementing government policy”.

The council first lodged an application for a foreshore licence two years ago and until it was issued the project could not proceed.

The paperwork has been sitting on the minister’s desk for months, but no decision has emerged. But in a clear snub to the minister, Dublin City Council said it took the move because of “considerable delays” that were “hindering progress”.

“Due to delays in obtaining a foreshore licence, Dublin City Council has published its intention to acquire the required lands on the foreshore at Poolbeg Peninsula by CPO,” assistant city manager Seamus Lyons said.

“We have taken the decision on foot of a request by our project partners, Covanta, due to considerable delays. This delay is hindering progress on construction of the plant. By acquiring the relevant section of foreshore through a CPO, Covanta will be able to progress construction of the Dublin Waste to Energy plant.”

The development means there is no legal barrier to construction of the 600,000-tonne capacity plant going ahead.

It has planning permission from An Bord Pleanala, a waste licence from the Environmental Protection Agency, permission from the Commission for Energy Regulation to generate energy and was approved by the Department of the Environment.

A spokesman for the department said Mr Gormley could not comment on the move as he was precluded from doing so under the planning acts. But he said the taxpayer could be “massively exposed” to penalty payments if it goes ahead.

“This begets the lie that the minister was delaying this. They could have gone down this route previously. It’s not unexpected because the council signalled it would go down this road.”

It also follows the intervention of US ambassador Dan Rooney, who became involved in moves to stop Mr Gormley blocking the scheme.

You don’t fuck around with a Steeler.

Gormley will be happy enough with that. He’s interested in his seat. The fact that he now can’t do anything to allow the incinerator to go ahead means he can say he did all he could. He’ll still lose his seat probably but this isn’t a huge kick in the teeth for him to take the decision out of his hands.