Elaborate here please.
[QUOTE=“Tabby, post: 1104197, member: 2142”]I’m actually not a SF supporter as such but the arguments against them from IRA to loony policies to record in the north govt don’t make sense imo. I think if a new party formed with the exact same policies as SF but none of the baggage or media campaign against them they’d win an overall majority.
Surely after all the countrys been through a slightly left of centre crowd would get a chance anywhere else.[/QUOTE]
I’m not against voting for the shinners. I just wish they weren’t so populist. If they were a party of principles then they’d be hiking or expanding the property tax not abolishing it.
Tax the rich, abolish the property tax, abolish the water charges, cut high earning civil servants, pure populist drivel. You can’t be socialist when it suits.
Leave scumpot out of it
Bertie Ahern would disagree.
[QUOTE=“Julio Geordio, post: 1104208, member: 332”]I’m not against voting for the shinners. I just wish they weren’t so populist. If they were a party of principles then they’d be hiking or expanding the property tax not abolishing it.
Tax the rich, abolish the property tax, abolish the water charges, cut high earning civil servants, pure populist drivel. You can’t be socialist when it suits.[/QUOTE]
Part-time socialism is the way to go.
[QUOTE=“Julio Geordio, post: 1104208, member: 332”]I’m not against voting for the shinners. I just wish they weren’t so populist. If they were a party of principles then they’d be hiking or expanding the property tax not abolishing it.
Tax the rich, abolish the property tax, abolish the water charges, cut high earning civil servants, pure populist drivel. You can’t be socialist when it suits.[/QUOTE]
Why though? Who says you’ve to follow some ‘how to be a socialist’ guidelines.
Surely populism is the key to all politics. What party isn’t populist?
@TheUlteriorMotive, any stats on the types of people earning 200k plus in Ireland? I’d wager the very large majority would not be in a position to move abroad.
Any stats or studies on super high earners and links to job creation?
[QUOTE=“glasagusban, post: 1104218, member: 1533”]@TheUlteriorMotive, any stats on the types of people earning 200k plus in Ireland? I’d wager the very large majority would not be in a position to move abroad.
Any stats or studies on super high earners and links to job creation?[/QUOTE]
http://www.wsj.com/articles/adieu-french-supertax-1420503805
Read the bit about FDI mate, it’s all you need to take from the article
[QUOTE=“Tabby, post: 1104217, member: 2142”]Why though? Who says you’ve to follow some ‘how to be a socialist’ guidelines.
Surely populism is the key to all politics. What party isn’t populist?[/QUOTE]
Well what’s the fucking point in voting for Sinn Fein as a change in how things are done if they are just going to be the same as ever other bunch of cunts we ever elected?
[QUOTE=“Julio Geordio, post: 1104220, member: 332”]http://www.wsj.com/articles/adieu-french-supertax-1420503805
Read the bit about FDI mate, it’s all you need to take from the article[/QUOTE]
I’m not subscribed to read it all but it was a genuine question. I’ve been meaning to try read into it. My earlier point stands though.
[QUOTE=“Tabby, post: 1104217, member: 2142”]Why though? Who says you’ve to follow some ‘how to be a socialist’ guidelines.
Surely populism is the key to all politics. What party isn’t populist?[/QUOTE]
Therein lies the problem
I think the general response is that there aren’t enough to raise anything like the tax you’d need to make a substantial difference and that you could create other issues with regard to FDI, disincentives etc. the problem is for tax to raise substantial sums of money it needs to apply to the middle earners. That’s why you’ll get many politicians suggesting higher tax rates for top earners but being very coy as to what that cut off would be.
The irish income tax system is pretty progressive as it stands with marginal taxes > 50% kicking in pretty early. I’d suspect there’s limited room to raise substantial extra revenue there. As has been pointed out wealth taxes, corporate taxes etc are more likely sources.
[QUOTE=“glasagusban, post: 1104218, member: 1533”]@TheUlteriorMotive, any stats on the types of people earning 200k plus in Ireland? I’d wager the very large majority would not be in a position to move abroad.
Any stats or studies on super high earners and links to job creation?[/QUOTE]
About 25,000 I think. Top 0.8 %.
Once you increase income tax to penal levels as proposed by SF (marginal rate 60%) then behaviours will change so you won’t make as much tax as you think
[QUOTE=“Tabby, post: 1104217, member: 2142”]Why though? Who says you’ve to follow some ‘how to be a socialist’ guidelines.
Surely populism is the key to all politics. What party isn’t populist?[/QUOTE]
Labour, not even their own supporters like their policies.
[QUOTE=“Tabby, post: 1104197, member: 2142”]I’m actually not a SF supporter as such but the arguments against them from IRA to loony policies to record in the north govt don’t make sense imo. I think if a new party formed with the exact same policies as SF but none of the baggage or media campaign against them they’d win an overall majority.
Surely after all the countrys been through a slightly left of centre crowd would get a chance anywhere else.[/QUOTE]
This is exactly what Sinead O’Connor said. Verbatim.
Tabby=Sinead O’Connor 
Do you think @Tabby could actually be Sinead?
If it’s true tabs I must say you look fucking terrible. wtf have you done to yourself. You’ve fucked yourself up completely and utterly. Tatoos on your face and hands:eek:,you fucking tramp!
Now that I’ve let you know how pissed off I am at the way you’ve fucked up your appearance I can move on to what it is you have to say. You’re special babes. I love your mind and I love your opinions. Keep on rocking.
You’re talking through your hole Petey, Sinead is looking grand and sounding even better than ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMzY_KQIKjU
Granted that chestplate tattoo is rank, but shur so be it.
And here she is without the wig last week in Australia
The t-shirt, up the RA 
She’s always sounded good bluey.