Superbowl LI: The Road to Houston, Texas

Tannehill is proven to be erratic even at best. At Denver he’d be able to mould Lynch and would have this year’s off season and draft to mould an O line in his preferred form. There’s a shit load of cap space.

The only need on Defense in a couple of run staffers. An offense there’s no need at WR or TE. The RB group might click into gear with an improved O line.

Even with this year’s deficiencies Denver almost made the play offs by going 9-7. I’m not saying it’ll happen or that it should but I don’t see how you feel it’s an I attractive role.

Tannehill was one of the better QB’s in the league from week 5/6 on. Gase loves him, the Fins were a mess since they drafted him up until this season. They will win lots of games together.

So it is a great job apart from the fact the offense has a poor backfield, no QB (Lynch :joy:), a woeful line, 2 quality recievers and nothing else.

Their defensive issues won’t be sorted by just plugging in a runstopper or two, they are getting gashed up the middle because of how good they are off the edge. Miller and co ripping off the edge leaves holes up the middle, they weren’t great at stopping the run last year either with a great defence.
Add to all that the fact that anything positive the team does will be credited to Elway and all failings will be directed at the “HC”, along with the clear rift in the dressing room between the O and D players!

It isn’t a good job pal. Expect Derell Bevell etc in a Mike Pettine type hire.

Elway was roundly criticised for allowing Jackson to leave last season and not strengthening the O line.

Booker and Lynch have shown they’re capable in flashes despite playing behind a non existent O line.

The bad feeling between the offense and defense will be eradicated by Okung being fucked out and the rumoured trade of Talib.

I look forward to you eating your words when there’s a top level coach appointed.

How easy do you think it is to build an entire offensive line? Remember Marcus Cannon and Michael Oher? Two tackles Ware and Miller ate for breakfast in the playoffs last year? They both got extensions last year. How much did Oakland spend in building their line over three seasons?

Lynch was significantly worse than Siemian and was Mettenberger esk in leading 3 and outs. He did not look promising at all.

Booker looked OK but not exactly a player to build a team around. Is he versatile if used as a three down back and not just a one cut runner?

So all will be rosy after you dump Talib and Okung? Who will replace Talib? Who would even trade for a 31 year old CB?

All fantasy stuff from you, that is a nightmare job and the team needs major surgery.

As I said I look forward to you eating your words.

So far there are HC spots open in SF, SD, BUF, LA, JAX, DEN. I’d expect Pagano to be fired too. Marvin Lewis wouldn’t be a surprising departure, and there’s talk that Bill O’Brien could leave Houston should they lose in the first round again.

Good chance that Sean Payton will be traded to LA, opening up the Saints job. Kyle Shanahan to Denver is a good bet. Chargers have requested interviews with Matt Patricia and Dolphins DC Vance Joseph, and will almost certainly hire a defensive coordinator candidate. Anthony Lynn will get a good look in for the Buffalo job, same for Marrone in Jacksonville. McDaniels is interviewing for the Rams and Niners jobs, and Sean McVay will be sought after generally too.

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Wade is out of contract and hasn’t been offered a new one.

I felt a bit sorry for McCoy in SD. Cursed with injuries, lost a lot of games very narrowly and unluckily and wasn’t helped by the GM fucking about with Bosa.

If I was a Chargers fan is like to see and offensive minded hire. I said it last year and I’ll say it again, I can’t believe Todd Haley is not getting courted ahead of some of these guys. He’s done an incredible job at Pittsburgh.

Yeah he was unlucky, but he really didn’t help himself either. He was a terrible reader of the game and situational manager. Chronically risk adverse too. He got some rope after last year’s debacle, but didn’t show anything different this year to say he should be retained. The Bosa fiasco was driven by John Spanos rather than the GM. John has a firm hand in the football ops side and will be the one hiring the new coach.

The last two HC hires have been offensive ones, so I think they’ll go that way - Patricia has been talked about throughout the season as someone they’d pursue strongly. Joseph and Sean McDermott will be thereabouts too I’d guess. The defense is young and exciting, so a HC who can mould around that would be desireable. The offense is there too (assuming there isn’t another injury epidemic), so long as the O-Line gets some help. Something that might be interesting to monitor would be Ron Rivera coming back, especially if they relocate. He’s nearly out of contract in Carolina and there’s talk of potential for a mutual termination there.

I think Haley is just too volatile to be a HC. A great coordinator alright, but the end in KC was a shambles and he’s had some personality clashes in Pittsburgh too.

Josh McDaniels surely wouldn’t leave the Pats for the 49ers or Rams. I assume he is in no rush and will be very selective about his choice of HC jobs.

Yeah Elway clarified later yesterday that it would be up to the new HC.

Shanahan is interviewing later this week.

Pacman Jones :eek:

Super Bowl 51: Smith to take the Chiefs to Championship glory

Time for Alex Smith to step up and take the Chiefs all the way
The AFC - Chiefs Kan be Conference champs

New England Patriots: AFC No.1 Seed
Super Bowl odds 3.10 (85/40)

In a triumph for state-the-obvious fans, the New England Patriots find themselves in possession of the AFC East, and another top seeding for their perennial play-off push. That said, all was not so rosy at the season’s outset (with Tom Brady suspended) and they have played much of the second half without talismanic tight end Rob Gronkowski (and Danny Amendola).

Still, in signature style, Bill Belichick and Brady have fashioned a sound receiving crew out of Martellus Bennett and Julian Edelman, allied to the recent shrewd signing of Michael Floyd. LeGarrette Blount has done the rest with his consistent ground gains, while the personnel absenteeism in the Pats’ secondary has been shored up by the evolution of a few misfits who pounce on any opposition misfires.

Even messiahs don’t turn water into wine as regularly as The Hooded One, and Belichick’s genius may run dry on the Conference Championship - just as it did last term. True, the Pats have the homefield advantage this year, but this is also the year in which no truly domineering team has emerged on either side of the national divide.

More games this season have been decided by eight points or fewer, which means that the postseason should follow a similarly tight suit. So at the current cramped quotes, I’d swerve New England and their fading All-American Anti-Hero (despite what the numbers say) in favour of some hotter quarterbacks who haven’t enjoyed Brady’s trademark luck with a soft schedule.

Kansas City Chiefs: AFC No.2 Seed
Super Bowl odds 11.00 (10/1)

While everyone’s been waxing lyrical about the Patriots’ ability to win in the air, on the ground, or on defense, Andy Reid has patiently developed a team that goes one step further: special teams. Which gives Kansas City a complete set of strengths. For, while the Chiefs have kept a strong running assault and a doughty D, in recent weeks the wraps have finally come off Alex Smith game-manager extraordinaire to reveal a frustrated stud quarterback. Okay, that might be stretching it, especially due to the small sample size of evidence. However, when you remember that Smith retains twin-threat versatility with some racy rears of his own, most rival defenses will be having kittens. And that’s before you throw in the human highlight reel, more commonly referred to as Tyreek Hill (12 TDs). The Chiefs hold a 23-5 record since mid-October last term, and I make them favourites to emerge from a top-heavy AFC.

Pittsburgh Steelers: AFC No.3 Seed
Super Bowl odds 11.00 (10/1)

Pittsburgh complete this Conferences’s troika of titanic teams, who will be pitched against some flickering lesser lights. In a nutshell, the Steelers are possessed of perhaps the quickest-strike offense in the league, and will benefit hugely from having their main offensive weapon, Le’Veon Bell, back for the play-offs (he was crucially absent last year). Ben Roethlisberger to Antonio Brown is the connection that should take care of business, but a dodgy defensive outlet and a third seeding (Big Ben was absent for a couple of mid-season games, vitally against New England too) means I’ll marginally favour Kansas.

Houston Texans: AFC No.4 Seed
Super Bowl odds 75.00 (74/1)

Once again, the Houston Texans barely scrambled out of the screaming crèche of incomprehensibility that is the AFC South. Sadly, now they’re about be asked to make a cogent case against the big boys. Unlike last year, they have zero momentum, and little defensive electricity without JJ Watt-age. Which means their hopes reside in a quagmire at quarterback where Brock Osweiler has proven totally ineffectual, while their hand-picked draft alternative in Tom Savage is now concussed. A dustbin would fancy its chances at pouching more sustainable returns. However, at least the Texans start out at home against Oakland, another side with its own calamities at QB.

Oakland Raiders: AFC No.5 Seed
Super Bowl odds 110.00 (109/1)

Derek Carr’s untimely break has thrown the Oakland Raiders out of the AFC’s number-two seeding, and totally out of play-off contention, if you agree with the Las Vegas lines. Trouble is, it appears the Raiders squad have also had a peek, and agree. First up, it’s a basement battle: Matt McGloin-or-Connor Cook (Carr’s stand-ins) versus Tom Savage-or-Brock Osweiler in Houston. Even if Oakland comes through, their ensuing “privilege” is a trip to the New England Patriots in the Divisional Round. Who wants to star as the punchbag a primetime beat’em-up?

AFC No.6 Seed: Miami Dolphins
Super Bowl odds 110.00 (109/1)

Miami have done well to make the postseason, even beating Pittsburgh (their opponents in Wildcard weekend) comfortably along the way. However, much has changed since then. They now travel to a streaking 7-0 outfit, with a banged-up star RB (repeated hits to Jay Ajayi upper body are taking their toll), and likely without their first-choice QB (Ryan Tannehill is still recovering from a sprained ACL and MCL in his left knee). The Steelers, though, are healthy on offense, despite fielding a D that rates a pale imitation to the Steel Curtain of yesteryear. Matt Moore will need a career game to keep Miami in the mix beyond Sunday.

The NFC - Everyone bar the Lions has a chance in wide open conference

NFC No.1 Seed: Dallas Cowboys
Super Bowl odds 5.40 (9/2)

The surprise package of the current campaign, with a rookie class stepping up in Tony Romo’s absence to defy their tender years. Admittedly, perhaps the best O-line in football has powered Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott’s youthful tandem, and Romo can consider himself unlucky. Homefield advantage is considered key to Prescott maintaining his composure under center, but it may actually ramp up the weight of expectation on his young shoulders. Unlike in the AFC, there are no dominant forces in the NFC, where everyone (except maybe Detroit) will fancy their chances of building up some momentum for a Super Bowl appearance on neutral territory. I say the Boys’ chances will be lassoed along the way by an outlaw riding into their hometown.

NFC No.2 Seed: Atlanta Falcons
Super Bowl odds 10.00 (9/1)

Matt Ryan is enjoying an MVP year, with no brakes on the offensive juggernaut that he helms. However, this has happened before, and the suspicion persists that “Matty Ice” melts when the mercury of competition rises. That said, Ryan has kept his composure when it’s mattered most during the regular season, and the Atlanta Falcons are the number-two seeds on merit. On the other side of the park, however, a porous secondary always gives the opposition a chance, and they’ll be a few hot hands in the Conference believing they can keep pace with Ryan and Julio Jones.

NFC No.3 Seed: Seattle Seahawks
Super Bowl odds 15.00 (14/1)

The Seattle Seahawks will rest their Wildcard opener on the shoulders of Russell Wilson and their defense, which will attempt to decommission the cannon arm of Matthew Stafford. Head coach Pete Carroll nearly botched his play-off by pulling his starters when New Orleans were rallying in Atlanta (worst case: a loss to the Niners could’ve blown a first-round bye) but the Hawks clung on, and avoided the white-hot Packers to boot. Carroll’s Legion of Boom remain fearless, but Seattle may have lost a yard on both sides of the ball. Armed, but not as dangerous.

NFC No.4 Seed: Green Bay Packers
Super Bowl odds 11.00 (10/1)

Green Bay were as good as Aaron Rodgers’ word. They “ran the table” with six successive wins, rediscovering their receivers under Rodgers’ pulsating paw, and even throwing in some effective back-up running from Ty Montgomery, and a few big plays from a depleted secondary. Nevertheless, this all starts and ends with Rodgers. In his past six games, he’s completed 15 passing touchdowns, with no interceptions for an off-the-charts passer rating of 121. If he can keep it up, the Pack can still go all the way.

NFC No.5 Seed: New York Giants
Super Bowl odds 30.00 (29/1)

My dark horses at the beginning of the season, Big Blue remains a threat to anyone in the open savannah of play-off country. Their defense has been a revelation, while OBJ and a talented receiving corps have only really been let down by their general in Eli Manning. Considering Manning Jnr has made his name blowing cold and then hot at the right time, a road-trip ride to his third Super Bowl is again on the cards. And The Book of Eli is no work of fiction, with two Super Bowl rings already. Even if the Packers do lie in wait at Lambeau Field on Sunday night.

NFC No.6 Seed: Detroit Lions
Super Bowl odds 90.00 (89/1)

The Detroit Lions are the stragglers in the betting, but will have nothing to fear and even less to lose when they journey to an intimidating CenturyLink Field in Seattle. Bar Jim Caldwell’s job. The Hawks are as vulnerable as they’ve been in a while, and Matthew Stafford-to-Golden Tate has the rapier speed to silence even the legendary Legion of Boom. Nevertheless, the Lions, who reversed into the postseason on a three-game losing streak, have trailed in the fourth quarter in 15 of their 16 games this year. Has Caldwell’s luck run out?

And the conclusion is…

However, when all’s said and done, in the year of no pre-eminent powerhouse, nothing should surprise in these play-offs. Therefore, I’m going to take Kansas City, the one team with the no weak links, although they will have to emerge from the tougher Conference. The Chiefs can do it all, they just have to pull all those threads together for three more games. They’ll likely have to repeal Big Ben, and turn Tom Brady into the sort of handsome throw-rug you like to take outside to beat. Then Alex Smith can finally morph from game-manager into game-changer for the Super Bowl. Stranger things have happened to frogs and princes. Next stop: Disneyland.

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5pts Back Kansas City Chiefs to win the Super Bowl @ 11.00 (10/1)

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The G Men

Oakland not without a chance but relying on the running game now so I just go for Texans, whose offence stinks tbh. Had Carr been fit I’d take Raiders to win comfortably.

Detroit have every chance I just see home advantage swinging it slightly the Seahawks way. Arizona showed how to beat them though recently. 4th quarter experice of Stafford and co has to count for something so they just need to stay with Seattle early to pull off upset.

Pittsburgh will be the most comprehensive victors this weekend. I don’t see Miami turning up at all.

A clash of the titans, all form, momentum and home advantage says Packers. Guaranteed ice bowl conditions nullifies the GOAT’s brilliance somewhat. Big Blue for me in OT.

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I see Joe Mixon has declared for the draft. For all non college football fans here’s a video of him decking a woman in 2014. Will any team want this on their hands?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shjopTfHFlw