[quote=“Sidney, post: 878026, member: 183”]Anybody else having problems getting the internet feed of TMS*?
*I’m in Eire rather than on the mainland, but have a download to enable me to listen to BBC as one would be able to on the mainland, and am having no problems viewing BBC1 TV on my laptop.[/quote]
On 5 live tonight
Australia 38/2 at lunch in response to England’s 255. Just 67 runs on the board in the morning session to 6 wickets down.
Australia 164-9. Haddin still there at 43 no though. England with a chance here.
That was much more like it from England. Its an absolute crying shame though that we had to wait until the 2nd day of the 4th test for that. Australian long standing batting frailties were all too evident. Warner was comical, coming out and slogging from the very start like it was that 20/20 rubbish.
England will be happy with their days work, but must be beating themselves up about how a combination of complacency, infighting, fatigue and loss of form over the last month have been such weighty contributory factors in the losing of the Ashes to this largely thirty something Australian team of journeymen.
I still wouldn’t back against a whitewash but this England team have like those of a generation ago shown the ability to scrap for the tidbits once the pressure is off. Who bowled well?
You’re really talking some sh*t, This is an England team that has consistently delivered under pressure over the years. They have been ranked No 1 in the world and have won Ashes series in Australia and a test series in India, something that hadn’t been achieved by an English cricket team in a generation. The main problem as invariably happens in most sports is a few of them have hung on past their sell by date. The warning signs were there on the tour of New Zealand earlier in the year and during the Ashes series in England that wear and tear and time was catching up on them.
Fair play to Australia, they sniffed a chance coming into this series that England were jaded and on the wane. but Nothing that’s happened in this series changes the fact this is a moderate Australian side. They hadn’t won in 9 tests coming into this series, they were the first Australian team in over 40 years who weren’t able to win a test in an Ashes series, the first Australian team to be whitewashed 4-0 in nearly half a century, when they were routed in India earlier this year . This is essentially the same group of Australian players who lost a home test to New Zealand for the first time in nearly thirty years and have delivered some of the worst batting collapses in the history of Australian cricket, 88 all out to Pakistan at Headingley and 47 all out to South Africa at Newlands immediately springing to mind.
Errr that is specifically why I mentioned the English team of a generation ago. You should work on your reading. Ill try and keep the words to one or two syllables for you in future. If anyone is potty mouthing here it is your good self.
Haddin’s ability to bat them out of trouble when five or six down and Mitch’s ability to blow away the lower order the difference between the sides. The next time they meet it is doubtful that Rogers, Harris and Haddin will be there. Who knows about Clarke’s back and Warner might have disappeared up his own arse by then. On the England side opener still not stable, KP might not be there, Anderson shoving on, need a wicketkeeper and possibly a spinner though hopefully Monty gets a good run now.
They all bowled decent, Broad and Anderson got three each. Aussie run rate was 2.23 slightly lower than Englands 2.55 in 1st innings. A low scoring pitch, suitable for England really.
You stated that ‘this England team have like those of a generation ago shown the ability to scrap for the tidbits once the pressure is off’’. I take it from that you are inferring this crop of English players hasn’t delivered when the pressure is on, which is well wide of the mark. This crop of English players have over the past 5 years consistently delivered when the pressure has been at its most intense from the Ashes decider at the Oval in 2009, the Boxing Day tests in Durban 4 years ago and Melbourne 3 years ago, winning the Bombay and Calcutta tests last year and on and on. There’s experience in that England changing room of winning a series against every test playing nation.
I think Flatty is thinking more of the times in the 90’s when England would have a false down by winning at the Oval when a series was already lost.
Or Dean Headley ripping through the Australians in Sydney, was it? I thought he was referring to England being 2-0 or 3-0 down away to Australia before winning in Sydney in the late 1990s or early 2000s or whatever.
You’re thinking of the Boxing Day test at the MCG in 1998. England won by 12 runs. Australia made the mistake of getting Headley pissed off. There was already an extended afternoon session on Day 4 to make up for a day which was completely washed out, when Mark Taylor opted for an extra half hour. England were out in the field for nearly 4 hours. Headley got fired up and skittled them out. Australia went from something like 130/3 to 160 all out in the space of about 12 overs. Mind you the real winning of that match for England was a 2nd innings 10th wicket stand of about 30 between those two redoubtable batsmen Angus Fraser and Alan Mullally.
The next test was at the SCG and Darren Gough got a hat-trick in the last over of the first day’s play.
[quote="Bandage, post: 878807, member: ? I thought he was referring to England being 2-0 or 3-0 down away to Australia before winning in Sydney in the late 1990s or early 2000s or whatever.[/quote]
This is exactly what I was talking about.
I was referring specifically to this particular England side in the current series. I thought that was clear. I was not referring to this group of players at some point in the past ten years, just to the way they have played as a team in the current series.
189-9, Haddin dragging them back into it. New ball taken.
All out 204. Haddin out for 65.
It looks a very good batting track today. Cook really needs to lead off now by example.
Yeah he needs to book in for bed and breakfast as Geoffrey would say.
watching here
http://www.cricbox.nl/cricket/192793/1/australia-vs-england-:-ashes-fourth-test-day-three-live-stream-online.html
unfortunatly for some reason the fucking radio 4 commnetary is on 5 live extra and its blocked so im stuck with the awful sky commnetary.
anyway, i backed a draw at 11/1 and australia now at 6/4
england will bottle this
2-25 AM - signing in for the long haul with a pot of tea and funsize mars bars