The All England Lawn Tennis Club Championships 2018

And what better sport to argue about.

No it’s not. It’s rivetting, the rallies are a thing of beauty on clay. Watching freakish giraffes bludgeon the ball past the opponent is boring. Wimbeldon is to tennis what the aptly named Wimbledon famed for their set plays and ugly long ball game were to football - an eyesore.

You don’t. All you need really is a great serve and basic all round game. If you’re big, have a big first serve and you have a basic game for the rest of it then you will do rightly at Wimbledon, I’ve posted up the finalists there and they all seem to have a common ground, big guys, big servers. Very little in the way of an all round game, all are very one dimensions but their serve is 90% of it. Wimbledon is serve, serve, serve.

Big players are better servers, it’s fact. You look at the ace stats on any tournaments, it’s generally dominated by the big guys. Who is the leader in career aces? Ivo Fucking Karlovic? A freak who I kid you not is 6 ft 11. What’s Ivo’s career best slam performance? It’s hardly Wimbledon is it? :eek: It fucking is, a QF in 2009. Who would have imagined that?

A guy can practice all they want at serving, they’ll never be as big a server as Karlovic or Isner, it’s physically impossible unless they share the same physical characteristics as them.

Seems to have a strong correlation in performance at Wimbledon however.

Most important thing in grass court tennis is having a good server, more important in other surfaces and most of all clay is having a complete all round game.

You don’t seem to know much about tennis at all, keep the cardigan pressed - one day you might be able to afford the membership.

A couple of short videos on grass court tennis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0dhbBTqPAU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgdTzXL86XM

Very selective there aren’t ya. The Isner record was in 2010 in the longest every match in tennis which was played over 3 days and took over 11 hours to complete. Oh yeah Mahut also served over 100 aces in that match but you would expect in match that tool over 11 hours to complete and took 183 games to complete.

And it served up 216 aces in that match that yielded 3 breaks of serve in 181 games, not including two tie breaks.

And you are arguing grass court tennis is more than serving?

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I already pointed this out above, nearly three days of those misfits burying aces past each other.

John Isner on 9 previous appearances at the Championship has never made it past Round 3/the last 32. Its his worst Grand Slam.

Ivo Karlovic in 13 appearances at the Championship made just one quarter final.

You need a lot more than a big serve to prosper at the Championship. It tests the full range of a players skill set and temperament in a way that no other tournament does.

Yep I am, If it wasn’t then Isner, Cilic and few other big servers would have won. How long did it take for Ivanisevic to win Wimbledon?

What you are implying that all you need is a big serve to win Wimbledon which is not the case? Yes you need a good serve but you need that on any surface, if you didn’t then everyone would be serving under hand.

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Federer and Sampras are probably two of the greatest servers in the game, that is why a lot of these players didn’t win. It is notable that they surface they all excelled on is Grass. You don’t seem to be able to separate the obvious correlation between a big serve and success on grass. If you’ve a big serve you will go a very long way on grass.

It’s the most important thing you need on grass.

It is the most important shot you need in the game. If ya cant serve you wont win. Doesn’t matter who the fuck you are, if you have a weak serve you wont win on any surface.

It’s the most important shot you need on grass.

It’s important on hard too but a serve alone won’t carry you on hard surfaces like it will on grass.

It’s not of great importance on clay.

So if it is the most important shot in tennis then howcome John Isner has never got past the 3rd round at Wimbledon in his career? Infact he has gone further in the French open where you say the serve is not important than he has at Wimbledon.

It’s not.

It’s the most important shot you need on grass.

You really dont have a clue. If you have a shit serve in tennis you are fucked. Simple as that.

Who did EPO Nadal draw in the first round?

Nadal has pulled out due to cramp in his little finger

I’m not on about a shit serve.

I am saying a big serve is absolutely vital in grass court tennis.

It is important to hard court tennis but not to the extent it is on grass.

On clay a big serve is not of great importance. It’s why the likes of Sampras and Federer had minimal impact on clay, both their games feed off their serve, when that is negated then it changes matters. Conversely Nadal is not a big server so is at a disadvantage of grass.

To win a grass court title without having a big serve is an absolutely remarkable feat like Agassi did in 1992.

Better off. Let this to the big boys.

@Cicero_Dandi relying on John Isner and Ivo Karlovic to back up his proposition that all you need at the Championship to prosper is a big serve. He’s refusing now to deal with the reality of the record of Isner and Karlovic at the Championship when the actual facts were put to him.

You’re not dealing with the facts on Karlovic.

His best career performance is Wimbledon, the only slam he has made it to a QF in.

3 of his 8 career titles have been on grass despite grass being by the shortest tour of the calendar year by a considerable distance, lasting just 6 weeks and played in handful of countires - niche tennis that Karlovic excels in.