The All England Lawn Tennis Club Championships 2018

Federer and Sampras are probably two of the greatest servers in the game, that is why a lot of these players didn’t win. It is notable that they surface they all excelled on is Grass. You don’t seem to be able to separate the obvious correlation between a big serve and success on grass. If you’ve a big serve you will go a very long way on grass.

It’s the most important thing you need on grass.

It is the most important shot you need in the game. If ya cant serve you wont win. Doesn’t matter who the fuck you are, if you have a weak serve you wont win on any surface.

It’s the most important shot you need on grass.

It’s important on hard too but a serve alone won’t carry you on hard surfaces like it will on grass.

It’s not of great importance on clay.

So if it is the most important shot in tennis then howcome John Isner has never got past the 3rd round at Wimbledon in his career? Infact he has gone further in the French open where you say the serve is not important than he has at Wimbledon.

It’s not.

It’s the most important shot you need on grass.

You really dont have a clue. If you have a shit serve in tennis you are fucked. Simple as that.

Who did EPO Nadal draw in the first round?

Nadal has pulled out due to cramp in his little finger

I’m not on about a shit serve.

I am saying a big serve is absolutely vital in grass court tennis.

It is important to hard court tennis but not to the extent it is on grass.

On clay a big serve is not of great importance. It’s why the likes of Sampras and Federer had minimal impact on clay, both their games feed off their serve, when that is negated then it changes matters. Conversely Nadal is not a big server so is at a disadvantage of grass.

To win a grass court title without having a big serve is an absolutely remarkable feat like Agassi did in 1992.

Better off. Let this to the big boys.

@Cicero_Dandi relying on John Isner and Ivo Karlovic to back up his proposition that all you need at the Championship to prosper is a big serve. He’s refusing now to deal with the reality of the record of Isner and Karlovic at the Championship when the actual facts were put to him.

You’re not dealing with the facts on Karlovic.

His best career performance is Wimbledon, the only slam he has made it to a QF in.

3 of his 8 career titles have been on grass despite grass being by the shortest tour of the calendar year by a considerable distance, lasting just 6 weeks and played in handful of countires - niche tennis that Karlovic excels in.

Karlovic, is he taking the piss.

A big serving donkey who excels on grass.

I think you’re taking the piss when you’re putting grass tennis on a pedestal when Karlovic is a type of guy who excels on it.

Tell me then how Murray who has the shittest serve of all the top players in top 20 has won wimbledon twice?

Well that’s just a blatant lie.

Murray has a bigger serve than Nadal for starters. Do you even know anything about tennis?

The weakest part of Murrays game has been his serve. Always has.

Yet he is 24th in the all time Aces list.

Nadal is 78th.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/stats/aces

Murray has a much bigger serve than Nadal. That is of far more value on grass courts.

Nadal 3,110 aces in 1,065 matches
Murray 5,472 aces in 806 matches

Are you going to stop spoofing now?

He’s bonkers! Sampras and Federer are apparently no good because they never prospered at the French Open. The GOAT has won 5 US Opens and 6 Australians. He even won that joke tournament at Roland Garros in 2009. Jimmy Connors, John McEnroe, Stefan Edberg, Boris Becker and Sir Andy Murray never won a French Open either.

Next he’ll be telling us that sloggers like Yannick Noah, Michael Chang, Andres Gomez, Sergi Brugera, Thomas Muster, Gustavo Kuerten, Carlos Moya, Alberto Costa, Juan Carlos Ferrero and Gaston Gaudio who won their only Grand Slams in Paris and never got within an asses roar of winning in proper tennis were better players than Connors, McEnroe, Edberg, Becker, Sampras and Sir Andy.