[QUOTE=âTheUlteriorMotive, post: 1049381, member: 2272â]It is not the World Cup. That is a registered trademark of FIFA and needs no qualification.
It is not the Rugby World Cup. It is the âRugby Worldâ Cup. Thatâs a much smaller place.[/QUOTE]
In a group with Italy and France next year. Two teams they play every single year anyway.
I would be a fan of the game and played it at various levels for many years but I would agree with a lot of that. In relation to the skills of the game though, there is a certain amount of skill involved in relation to passing the ball at speed off either hand while under pressure and being able to kick the oval ball properly. Itâs just that 90% of people who play the game, in this hemisphere anyway, donât have that skill and never try to master it. Instead the focus is on getting bigger which will eventually ruin the game because people will start dying on the pitch with the size of some of the mongos playing these days clattering into each other head first at speed. There is next to no skill involved for the forwards in the game although there is the âtechniqueâ involved in scrummaging, whatever the fuck that is.
Off the Ball tonight. Trevor Hogan. He spoke about a super skilled Australian team. I watched most of that game and wondered how an international team could put out a scrum half that couldnât pass the ball. Five times he passed the ball a good two yards behind the out half and chaos ensued. Three times the out half barely managed to collect the ball off of his toes. Super skilled me arse.
The language around the sport and the mythologising is hilarious. Warriors, relentlessness, the hits, Titans, constructed creativity. A great piece where he characterised the choke tackle as creativity.
How does it? Ireland is a small country, tiny population, and hurling is competitive in less than a third of it. But has the same competition level as a supposed âworldâ sport?
I donât mind rugby, itâs way better than soccer and if played well on hard pitches it can be cracking to watch, especially super rugby. Itâs the hype around Munster and now the irish team that makes it hard to stomach. Munster used to just take the ball into rucks continuously for the last ten minutes of the game and people raved about it. Fuck that. With the size of players now though itâs gonna have to go to 13 players a side to create some space. Also the fact scrums can be decided on a particular refs interpretation is bollox, so scrap them too. In short it needs to be replaced by league.
The radio commentary of the last 15 minutes of normal time of the Kilmallock v Cratloe match was about 100 times more exciting than the whole of the Ireland Australia rugby match.
The great game of rugby is poorly served by its modern day broadcasters.
No sport has ever produced broadcasters of the calibre of Bill McLaren, Cliff Morgan or Nigel Starmer Smith.
Itâs just the bullshit terminology that goes with it.
They donât even name the positions - âheâs a world class 9, heâs a top class 12, need a top class 6.â :rolleyes:
Even the most mundane game is given mythical status - "enormous physicality, guys fronting up, 6 day turn around, winning the collisions, excellent kick chase (running after the fucking ball in other words), solid set-piece - like itâs describing Leaving Cert level honours physics.
The Munster club final was just enthralling entertainment and it has received less acclaim than Joe Smith/Schmidtâs appendix.
Liam Aherne 
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They donât even name the positions - âheâs a world class 9, heâs a top class 12, need a top class 6.â :rolleyes:
Even the most mundane game is given mythical status
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Least there is no mythologising of the GAA you absolute fucking turnip of a man.
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In fairness Dan, theyâre all positions.
[QUOTE=âManuel Zelaya, post: 1049430, member: 377â]The great game of rugby is poorly served by its modern day broadcasters.
No sport has ever produced broadcasters of the calibre of Bill McLaren, Cliff Morgan or Nigel Starmer Smith.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=âFagan ODowd, post: 1049422, member: 706â]Off the Ball tonight. Trevor Hogan. He spoke about a super skilled Australian team. I watched most of that game and wondered how an international team could put out a scrum half that couldnât pass the ball. Five times he passed the ball a good two yards behind the out half and chaos ensued. Three times the out half barely managed to collect the ball off of his toes. Super skilled me arse.
The language around the sport and the mythologising is hilarious. Warriors, relentlessness, the hits, Titans, constructed creativity. A great piece where he characterised the choke tackle as creativity.[/QUOTE]
Good ol Trev
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Least there is no mythologising of the GAA you absolute fucking turnip of a man.
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dodgy-keeper is utterly consumed with bitterness by the phenomenon and success that is Irish and Munster rugby.
What success would this be, pal?
About 7 countries take rugby football half seriously and despite this Ireland have never gone further than a quarter final. Sometimes they have not even got that far.
Theyâve won one Grand Slam in the last fifty or sixty years.
Munster have watched their bitter rivals Leinster win three Heino Cups since they last won it six years ago.
I am bitter in fairness and donât deny it.
[QUOTE=âdodgy-keeper, post: 1049566, member: 1552â]What success would this be, pal?
About 7 countries take rugby football half seriously and despite this Ireland have never gone further than a quarter final. Sometimes they have not even got that far.
Theyâve won one Grand Slam in the last fifty or sixty years.
Munster have watched their bitter rivals Leinster win three Heino Cups since they last won it six years ago.
I am bitter in fairness and donât deny it.[/QUOTE]
What an in depth knowledge of that which it proclaims to hate so much. Take it all in pal, feed that bile, grow that ball of hate deep down in your insides so that it may one day flare up and consume you whole. Tick tockâŚ
[QUOTE=âdodgy-keeper, post: 1049566, member: 1552â]What success would this be, pal?
About 7 countries take rugby football half seriously and despite this Ireland have never gone further than a quarter final. Sometimes they have not even got that far.
Theyâve won one Grand Slam in the last fifty or sixty years.
Munster have watched their bitter rivals Leinster win three Heino Cups since they last won it six years ago.
I am bitter in fairness and donât deny it.[/QUOTE]
Hurling is taken seriously in one county Kilkenny and half seriously in 6-7 more.
Your own county Limerick (which is the home of Irish rugby) is a joke when it comes to hurling. One All Ireland in 75 years and that won against a weakened Kilkenny team in 1973.
Ireland are currently European champions.
Leinster and Munster have won the blue riband event of European club rugby five times in the last decade.
Know thine enemy.
[QUOTE=âManuel Zelaya, post: 1049585, member: 377â]Hurling is taken seriously in one county Kilkenny and half seriously in 6-7 more.
Your own county Limerick (which is the home of Irish rugby) is a joke when it comes to hurling. One All Ireland in 75 years and that won against a weakened Kilkenny team in 1973.
Ireland are currently European champions.
Leinster and Munster have won the blue riband event of European club rugby five times in the last decade.[/QUOTE]
Hurling is an amateur pastime. Rugby is a professional sport. Comparing the 2 is pointless.
[QUOTE=âManuel Zelaya, post: 1049585, member: 377â]Hurling is taken seriously in one county Kilkenny and half seriously in 6-7 more.
Your own county Limerick (which is the home of Irish rugby) is a joke when it comes to hurling. One All Ireland in 75 years and that won against a weakened Kilkenny team in 1973.
Ireland are currently European champions.
Leinster and Munster have won the blue riband event of European club rugby five times in the last decade.[/QUOTE]
Rugby is taken seriously in one country and played half seriously in two more and is a minority sport in 4/5 more. Leinster and Munster have won an event that french and English teams regularly field weaken teams in as they donât consider it that important. Ireland have never reached the last 4 in a competition played competitively by maybe 10 teams, if even that.
