The assassination of JFK - conspiracy or lone nut?

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that’s a serious conspiracy right there

ballistics and that there was no way he could be left alive,

Flesh that out a bit pal.

Were the injuries and shots fired consistent with one shooter? I doubt they would have leaving Oswald on his own to do it, they made sure he was got.

Yes
Who is they? There’s no actual evidence anyone else was involved. It’s a bit of a stretch to say if there was a conspiracy involving others, nobody would have talked in the intervening years. It’s possible but unlikely.
Whether others knew of Oswalds plans is another question, there is some evidence he bragged about planning to kill Kennedy during his visit to Mexico, likely to impress the Cubans where he was trying to get a visa to.

Well it took a few to get Oswald back to the US after he had defected.

Ballistic tests done on Oswald say he didn’t even fire a rifle that day. It was a French Canadian hired assassin who killed Kennedy. Oswald was part of the conspiracy but not even a shooter imo. A Patsy as he says himself

Have you been to the book depository?

So you believe in the magic bullet theory chef?

For each shot, he would have had to push up the gun’s bolt handle, pull the bolt backwards to eject the spent cartridge case and then forward to slide the next round into the chamber, before turning down the bolt handle to lock it in place. He fired 3 rounds in 8 seconds apparently. There is no physical way to discharge those shots in that period of time. Expert marksmen in different sniper units couldnt replicate his feat. He achieved all this despite being classified as a poor shot when he left the marines 4 years previous and with a faulty rifle too.

He had a much better shot coming up Houston. There was an oak tree in his line of sight on Elm plus target was moving away. The car was cavalcade was travelling at same speed although did stop twice which was against protocol. Bill Greer didnt cover himself in glory. The magic bullet theory is just daft and they restored the vehicle transporting Kennedy that day only days later. It turned up in a ford factory where windscreen which had been fragmented from 4th bullet was restored.

I’m no conspiracy nut, but I’d agree, the most unlikely aspect of all this was the accuracy of the shooting, unless it was just plain bad luck on JFK’s part.
I suppose the bullets would have landed in the vicinity whoever had fired a rifle pointed at the car ,even from that window, but a direct head shot would have been really odds against I’d have thought, unless it was an outstanding sniper.

A very old Italian bolt action rifle at that.

Correct, think it was a 1940’s model with a faulty scope. He landed 2 deadly shots with it. They had this whole sequence recreated at Quantico supervised by Gunny Hathcock who is the most famous US military sniper in history. He had 93 confirmed kills in Vietnam. He also had the longest recorded kill shot of 2,500 metres. They recreated the moving target, range and angle etc but none of the snipers could pull off what Oswald did. And Oswald did it with a faulty telescope and with 4 bullets. 3 shells found in the birds nest and one in the chamber of the rifle. No amunition was found anywhere else either at his mothers house or his home. And yet we are expected to believe that he decided he had enough with 4 bullets to secure his place in history.

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[quote=“johnnysachs, post:195, topic:18343, full:true”]
Gunny Hathcock who is the most famous US military sniper in history.
[/quote]that would be Chris Kyle

No.

He fired 3 rounds in 11 seconds, entirely feasible. There is general agreement now that the first shot was just after Kennedy’s limo turned on to Elm, just before Zapruder started his film. Still pictures and eye witnesses confirm this. He then had to wait until Kennedy emerged from behind the tree, so 6.3 seconds, and then 4.9 seconds to the fatal 3rd shot.

Why do people say he was a poor shot? He was a marine, not some lad who picked up a rifle for the first time. He tested as sharpshooter in the marines, hitting 48 of 50 and 49 of 50 targets from 200 yards. Given how close the target was (88 yards for the final shot), and moving directly away from him so effectively stationary, he wouldn’t even need the scope, the iron sights would have sufficed. Even if you conclude the odds were against him, maybe he just got lucky.

The experts who doubt he could have done it or were tested and concluded he couldn’t have done it were all refuting the 3 shots in 6 seconds conclusion which stemmed from the (incorrect) Warren Commission findings.

And what of his own assassination?

It was 3 shots in 8 seconds. Not possible.

Anyway take a look at 1:37:26 in this video and tell me something clearly isn’t amiss here. All the stars just dont magically aline.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM