There is. Man U lost in both of their European Super Cup final appearance in 2008 and 2017. Chelsea lost the European Super Cup Final in 2012 but drew with Bayern Munich in the 2013 European Super Cup, just losing out on the right to lift the trophy in the lottery.
Chelsea are the most successful English club in Europe since 2004.
Players are selected for their general play, a team needs one, maximum 2 specialist penalty takers, thereās definitely an element of lottery to a penalty shootout but many many matches are lost by the best team in any case
United lost a couple of finals and won a world club title. Chelsea didnāt. But he said they were the most successful English Club in Europe, something thatās clearly not true. I thought @GeoffreyBoycott was a man of facts, of principles. A man you could believe in. I was wrong.
Soccer is an 11 a side game. When a match concludes in a draw after 120 minutes and it is reduced to a set piece gimmick involving just one player from each side to declare a winner, it becomes a lottery. If its a draw, just do what they do in test cricket and call it a draw or else have a replay.
Very needy lot the Man U cheerleaders around here. Two losing European Cup finals (Iād imagine most Man U fans would try to obliterate from the memory) where they were destroyed by Barcelona in 2009 and 2011 are now advanced in support of the proposition that Man U have been the most successful English club in Europe since 2004.
Strange moving of goalposts here Geoffrey. You stated Chelsea were the most successful English side in Europe over that period. They are not. Youāve smoke and mirrored a bit since. Poor show from a normally robust and correct statistician.