Four bedrooms? La di da. Doubt many had four bedroom āgetawaysā in the nineties.
Probably not.
I think multiple property owners should have to pay excess tax on them however as hoarding property should be costly.
Getaway is an apt phrase
I heard Paddy Diver on saying that the figure of ā¬131 per square foot should be ā¬150.
Would this be right @Gman ? I have no clue when it comes to such matters and canāt understand why they donāt just rebuild the houses but thatās my lack of experience in costing projects like that coming through.
its all over the place really. As a rule, I hate square ft/m type rates. one persons ft2 rate will not be the same as their neighbour. It should only be used as a guide and not a specific rule of thumb. For example, say one house uses a traditional oil boiler heating system, and the other one uses heat pump system, then the cost per ft2 over a standard house might vary by ā¬2.50 per ft2 just on that one item.
The one thing I will say about it is that it is an adequate figure for housing estate type projects. More than enough to be honest. It may not be enough for a single one off project. Economies of scale make it easier to keep costs down in estate type projects. But the other thing about this is that typically the ft2 rate would include capital costs and fees etc, whereas here, these should be eliminated.
The other thing, which really also needs to be in play here, is that there should still be utilised services etc on the existing builds. Drainage, service ducts should not need any replacing. Any large scale heating systems should be able to have the source unit retained. Kitchens is a debatable one which Iād concede. But factoring the above and more into equation, there is no reason why a north west region shouldnt be able to do a rebuild for whats being offered. Paddy Diver is looking for cost to exceed the SCSI guideline price and is allowing for a totally brand new development, rather than allowing that a lot of the costs included in that allocation need not be replaced.
Would the footings and everything have to come out?
youād imagine the blocks there would be fucked as well. So you will have an entirely new structure built on the old concrete foundations. I doubt any engineer would stand over existing concrete foundations for a new structure on top. Again, a debatable one, but for something like that, Iād probably err on the side of caution.
Nice one. I think the traditional heating systems wonā tbe allowed to be included in the rebuilds, stoves are gonzo apparently.
The other thing you mention in relation to housing estate projects is probably irrelevant as, I believe, weāre all expecting to find our own builders to do the work.
If they are to be classed as new builds they would have to comply with new Building regs which could lessen the amount of heating systems that are able to be retained as everything appears to be a heat exchanger these days.
I think the best way to sort it would be aking to the movie āWorthā, wishful thinking
It does seem like a good opportunity to get a chunk of the Stateās housing up to a high BER standard which would be worth the extra spend imho.
It the new regs were created by the EU then maybe the Govt could go, hand in cap, and ask for a contribution towards the rebuild.
Weāve been very good members after all. Could seriously lessen the hit on exchequer funds too.
no reason why stoves are omitted from new regs. Open fires yes, but not stoves. It seems an oft said thing, but there isnt any regulation I know of that prohibits the use of stoves. My reference to the heating system was merely to show the folly of using a one catch all ft2 rate.
Iām sure there will be plenty of builders treating this as large scale projects. And whilst people may be told to find their own builder, I can imagine one builder agreeing to do a majority of an estate or whatever rather than a load of them doing their own thing. The other thing then is that there are reduced costs per ft2 with semi detached buildings over detached ones, hence the reduction in costs also there.
Your last bit, the regs are Irish, not EU governed. We have implemented NZEB building regs based on the EU directive of EPBD, but it is up to each individual government to implement any directives or guidelines individually, even if they are adhering to a more global regulation system. I honestly couldnt say what other countries building regs are like or how they compare, but just that we still dont have one central point really and the get out clause is they are to implement them themselves on their own set of regs.
See Darragh OāBrien is saying itās based off ā¬145 per sq ft now.
Might be a bit of wiggle room there.
Just reading there that there was a proposal for ā¬145/ft2 for first 1,000ft and ā¬138 thereafter. That seems reasonable to me to be honest. Its being capped at ā¬420,000. That equates to a size of 3,000ft2 essentially. That is a big house all things considered and I doubt there would be many bigger than that. Plus on ones that size, there is a lot you can do to spread the costs and make it economic.
Also read about Paddy Diver saying they were going to protest and have a ārevolution in Dublinā and āclose down the cityā. Thats one sure fire way to ensure you get the public against you and no goodwill. Iāve not seen a massive amount with him, but going in all guns blazing the whole time is going to piss off the general public, and if twitter is anything to go by, its how the government make their decisions.
Will there be any oversight of builders who will now know their clients can go to maximum of 420k?
but Iām not sure how they can. If their house is say 2,000ft2, then they are only eligible to get ā¬283,000 maximum payout.
Ok, I get you, itās based on the previous footprint. Not a 420k maximum per house.
Thereās some other allowable expenses as well such as ā¬10,000 for rent.
I canāt understand the redress amount dropping to ā¬110 per square ft after 1,000 sq ft if thereās a cap of ā¬420k anyhow. Does the normally drop if you house is over this @Gman ?
Like I said previously Iām useless with figures but thereās a lot online saying that this is leaving most homeowners with 80% being accounted for while Darragh OāBrien is claiming itās 100% for some reason.