He was a magician ā¦he could do things with a ball none of the others could ā¦ they all have their virtues and faults ā¦ but for a few years he was just sensational and a complete joy to watchā¦ you can get into stats and medals and all thatā¦ whateverā¦ on his day he was just immense to watch and thatās good enough for meā¦
Thereās 20 more players we could all argue aboutā¦ Iāll never forget Rivaldoās hatrick/performance for Barca against Valencia on the last day of season to qualify for the CLā¦ Cannavarno was another absolute legend ā¦ the art of defending doesnt get half enough creditā¦ and on we could go.
Yes, yes I wasā¦ We didnt all live in a mud hut with a makeshift transistor radio for our only entertainmentā¦RTE2, Channel 4 and Eurosport showed Italian football back then ā¦ and I think the chap may have played in a couple of world cups?
well considering you are lauding Ronaldo for winning a final that he only played the first 15 minutes in contributing nothing, Iām not sure there is much place else to go in that debate.
Heās cherry picked the last 3 years when Barca were going through a transition to show that Ronaldo is the better player ā¦ Despite Barca dominating Madrid for yearsā¦ and of course, football is only a one man game, we forget that.
How many finals of international tournaments has Messi lost, playing 90 minutes or longer?
Ronaldo has a much better record since 2013, thereās really not much of a debate. If he wins the CL and Ballon dāOr again this year, it isnāt even an argument.
Messi had more goals in 2 of those seasons ā and has far more assists over that period as a whole. Ronaldo has more goals ā But Ronaldo is a poacher who pisses and moans and wont track back ā the other puts himself all over the park to help his team mates, provides far more goals and his goal scoring is also phenomenalā¦Messi is the complete player and has to provide and score ā¦ Ronaldo, more often than not, gets to stand around throwing his hands in the air until he gets it the ball on a plate.
You seem to be judging team success as indicators of individual greatnessā¦ and I dont think anyone that takes soccer anyway serious takes Ballon dāors into account, palā¦ youāre kinda embarrassing yourself there
so the fact that Argentina (not Messi) lost international finals means that Portugal (not Ronaldo) winning a final without Ronaldo contributing means Ronaldo is a better player. Thats some fucked up logic right there.
And what with the magical 2013 year as a reference point? Is everything before that not counted as an overall tally of a players career?
Remember when he said Colombia would win the 94 World Cup? Or that Spain would win the 98 World Cup? Heās a fucking simpleton, a bit of a Christy Ring shall we say.
He called Nii Lamptey The New Pele once. This was in the same tournament at which a young Alessandro Del Piero played. He failed to notice Del Piero, obviously.
You seem to believe not playing in finals is the same thing as winning finals. Your logic of the player who has won more awards being the better player is also spectacularly flawed. Use your eyes mate