The dreamers in their perfect world V The hard-core realists

Do you believe everything you read on “alt left” media? The case you reference against Trump was dropped, but of course you believe it happened. Ever hear of due process? Does it only count if one is an ISIS member?

Trump is a sexist pig, as was Bill Clinton. See, I have no problem saying that as I don’t see the world in black and white. Epstein should have gotten a much longer sentence, and may well be retried as a lot of new evidence has come out. Tom Humpheries should have gotten a much longer sentence as well, but you were very quick to jump to his defense on here.

So, conservatives should have no media coverage.
Thanks for clearing that up, comrade.

CNN is now just as biased as Fox, and MSNBC are an absolute joke.

Again, you throw out a blatant lie because lies are all you have. I never defended Humphries. He was rightly locked up and got an appropriate sentence according to the rule of law.

Trump has spent his whole life threatening people. He’s a lowlife criminal. Work out why the 13 year withdrew from the case.

Why is Acosta still Labour secretary?

The Trump regime is extremely soft on serial child sex abuse.

Work out why that is.

Also explains Pizzagate - as always - lyingly accuse others of that of which you are guilty.

You are living in a la la land and have no concept of reality whatsoever.

I’m beginning to think you’re more of an Alex Jones man than a Fox man.

You’re like these absolute nutters and cranks that think Gemma O’Doherty is a hero “investigative” journalist.

@anon7035031

Would you be away and enjoy your life, ate steak and have a bit of whiskey and not be feeding the fucker.

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The difference between you and I mate (when it comes to the media) is I can actually recognize bias whether I agree with the viewpoint or not. I have no problem calling Fox News biased, and rarely watch it for the same reason I rarely watch MSNBC. There are some presenters worth watching on CNN, such as Chris Cuomo, but others who are hopelessly biased.

Your issue is confirmation bias, you cannot actually see that MSNBC is biased because they confirm your worldview. A halfwit basically.

I’m actually just about to do that, thanks for the reminder.

:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

This is getting genuinely pitiful now.

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I’ll give you the last word.
Do you think CNN and MSNBC are biased towards liberal/Democratic viewpoints?

You don’t understand the difference between an editorial position and propaganda and disinformation.

This is really, really basic stuff.

Increasingly, and overwhelmingly, even in so called “reputable” outlets, the right has moved away from editorial stances and towards the disinformation/propaganda model, and this isn’t confined to the US by any means.

It cannot be otherwise, because the Republican party itself, in common with its allies in the UK and European far right, Russia, Brazil, the Philippines etc. is now an active mass disinformation network, and there is no reality in which the Trump regime is not a stinking, corrupt, vile, crypto-fascist cesspit which symbolises the worst of all humanity.

MSNBC is a mixture of news and information. It has a liberal editorial stance and programmes like Maddow and Lawrence O’Donnell back up their narratives with actual verified information in the public domain.

CNN is centrist and does the same as MSNBC.

Fox is overwhelmingly far right propaganda. They cite two actual journalists who work for them, Sheppard Smith and Chris Wallace, to claim they are an actual news network. This is what all disinformation networks do. Russia Today do the same. They are a fig leaf decorating a steaming pile of sewage.

Fox is literally where Trump gets his “information” from. They are the US’s equivalent of North Korean state TV.

Read Jane Mayer’s piece in the New Yorker and learn a bit.

You can’t even admit MSNBC are biased, you absolute clown. Right wing bias is propaganda, left wing bias is editorial :joy: No, it’s all bias you stupid deluded cunt. MSNBC during prime time is nothing more than anti-Trump ranting, and CNN isn’t much better. Neither make any attempt to hide their obvious bias.

A news channel’s primary role is to report the news and then editorialize. On the night of the NK meeting CNN devoted one minute to it and 141 minutes to the Cohen testimony where nothing new was reported that wasn’t already known, except for a few new lies which Cohen is now likely facing perjury charges for. CNN has become a jokeshop, which is why their ratings are headed to zero compared to Fox and MSNBC.

You still are clueless on all things US related, even after now almost three years of my tirelessly trying to explain it to you. You will never learn sadly, not even the basics. Why is it so hard to understand that the great majority of Americans are conservative, the great majority understand capitalism is the preferred economic system (clue, millions fleeing shitholes and trying to get into the US), and the biggest voting segment are centrists who will float from Republican to Democrat and back again.

Jesus Christ

Gas cunts

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Too good for ‘em. Tipp town.

These lads will have arthritis in their fingers soon enough hopefully

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I wonder are they even self aware?

They’ll be getting Alexa to post their replies soon enough.

We are all doomed.

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@glasagusban and @Sidney cleaned house last night. The Gubberment have to let that lassie back in, no laws to prevent it. End of.

There was talk of two isis fighters (male I assumed) at one stage in the debate, have i missed something, is this all about the girl in the picture with Bertie?

If she’s Irish she has to come back here if the country she committed acts of terrorism against dont want to gang rape her and hang her. What crimes can we try her under?

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Sure she’ll be drawing the dole and handed a medical card, giving a house and and placed under garda protection

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