[QUOTE=“myboyblue, post: 1039810, member: 180”]The likes of Farrell and his ilk wouldn’t stand toe to toe with men like Brolly and O’Rourke. This will be a massacre.
Time for Dessie to come clean
@caoimhaoin would also like the answers to question 1 and 5.
Good man, Joe 
irony in O’Rourke and Brolly who make a living via GAA (paid for tv work, newspaper work) having a cut off players at some stage maybe, only maybe being paid for actually playing games they report on
what did O’Rourke or Brolly do for player welfare in their playing days
article is naïve around how charities work
Brolly is the highest paid defence lawyer in NI (or one of them) funded by HMRC - he knows all about state sponsored capitalism and the GAA he is advocating has not existed for decades with sponsorship deals, full time employees in Croke Park, full time development officers
Farrell has for whatever reason rattled their cages
[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1039818, member: 2272”]irony in O’Rourke and Brolly who make a living via GAA (paid for tv work, newspaper work) having a cut off players being paid for actually playing games they report on
what did O’Rourke or Brolly do for player welfare in their playing days[/QUOTE]
I think you missed the point.
Also, his use of the word irony there is absolutely dreadful.
I don’t think I did.
Ask Brolly and O’Rourke and the rest of the Sunday Game lads to disclose how much they earn each year from
TV
radio
Newspaper
Appearances at GAA functions
substance stacks up so you attack a specific word Ed Byrne style
and then compound the error by using “dreadful” colloquially but in the strictest sense in an incorrect manner
[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1039829, member: 2272”]I don’t think I did.
Ask Brolly and O’Rourke and the rest of the Sunday Game lads to disclose how much they earn each year from
TV
radio
Newspaper
Appearances at GAA functions[/QUOTE]
What the fuck has that got to do with Farrell and the GPA? Bomber was right, you’re spectacularly missed the point and continue to do so.
Nice edit to your original post btw.
[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1039829, member: 2272”]I don’t think I did.
Ask Brolly and O’#Rourke and the rest of the Sunday Game lads to disclose how much they earn each year from
TV
radio
Newspaper
Appearances at GAA functions[/QUOTE]
The point being made in the article is an NPO whose aim it is to protect the welfare of GAA players being milked dry by an elite few at the top of the chain and neglecting everyone else.
What Brolly and O’Rourke earn through their own personal employment is not pertinent and to draw a correlation there is bizarre.
half his article is attacking capitalism in the GPA and making money
my point is that Brolly, O’Rourke, McGee are all making money via reporting on GAA matters and possibly attending GAA functions and dinners so to criticise commercial endeavours around the GAA and the GPA is hard to take. He then goes off on a rant about his charity costing nothing which anybody in the not for profit world means that his charity is not sustainable and won’t leverage anything because ultimately volunteer based charities run out of steam and don’t have the impact they could have
Do you lads read what you post up and read articles before you post them?
[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1039837, member: 2272”]half his article is attacking capitalism in the GPA and making money
my point is that Brolly, O’Rourke, McGee are all making money via reporting on GAA matters and possibly attending GAA functions and dinners so to criticise commercial endeavours around the GAA and the GPA is hard to take. He then goes off on a rant about his charity costing nothing which anybody in the not for profit world means that his charity is not sustainable and won’t leverage anything because ultimately volunteer based charities run out of steam and don’t have the impact they could have
Do you lads read what you post up and read articles before you post them?[/QUOTE]
Again, you have missed the point. Brolly hasn’t attacked capitalism, he’s attacked the people governing the GPA (a NPO) milking the resources provided for the welfare of GAA players as some sort of fund to support their lavish lifestyle. He’s highlighted the fact the only ones benefitting from the 8/9m provided to the GPA have been an elite few.
[QUOTE=“Il Bomber Destro, post: 1039835, member: 2533”]The point being made in the article is an NPO whose aim it is to protect the welfare of GAA players being milked dry by an elite few at the top of the chain and neglecting everyone else.
What Brolly and O’Rourke earn through their own personal employment is not pertinent and to draw a correlation there is bizarre.[/QUOTE]
He is criticising Farrell for making money from his employment so why is it bizarre?
He criticises all commercialism around the GAA?
He criticises fundraising dinners?
He thinks not for profits should be run for free.
He dismisses any work the GPA have done.
He mentions the elite nature of the county game. By definition it is elite. It will become more elite because county is box office and clubs and county boards see successful county teams as driving participation by kids, swelling membership and fees.
Anybody who says GAA is not a capitalist, commercial organisation is a fool. To criticise a players organisation for adopting a commercial, capitalist approach to things is deliberately ignorant and designed to fan flames.
[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1039837, member: 2272”]half his article is attacking capitalism in the GPA and making money
Do you lads read what you post up and read articles before you post them?[/QUOTE]
I don’t think you read the article or understand the criticisms, and given you still don’t get it it’s not reflecting awfully well on your education. You sound like a real toe the party line type here, well I hope you are becuase if you’re this dumb it’s a little unsettling.
Brolly and O Rourke are questioning the elitism of the organisation and what it does, what it could and what it should be doing. What they do or earn from their personal endeavours has nothing to do with their questions about the GPA.
[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1039842, member: 2272”]He is criticising Farrell for making money from his employment so why is it bizarre?
He criticises all commercialism around the GAA?
He criticises fundraising dinners?
He thinks not for profits should be run for free.
He dismisses any work the GPA have done.
He mentions the elite nature of the county game. By definition it is elite. It will become more elite because county is box office and clubs and county boards see successful county teams as driving participation by kids, swelling membership and fees.
Anybody who says GAA is not a capitalist, commercial organisation is a fool. To criticise a players organisation for adopting a commercial, capitalist approach to things is deliberately ignorant and designed to fan flames.[/QUOTE]
Yes, from an NPO which has neglected the majority of those it is meant to serve.
[QUOTE=“myboyblue, post: 1039843, member: 180”]I don’t think you read the article or understand the criticisms, and given you still don’t get it it’s not reflecting awfully well on your education. You sound like a real toe the party line type here, well I hope you are becuase if you’re this dumb it’s a little unsettling.
Brolly and O Rourke are questioning the elitism of the organisation and what it does, what it could and what it should be doing. What they do or earn from their personal endeavours has nothing to do with their questions about the GPA.[/QUOTE]
again - attacking the man shows I am schooling you
The GPA is by definition an elite organisation. It was set up as an organisation for county players so it has to be elite.
[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1039842, member: 2272”]He is criticising Farrell for making money from his employment so why is it bizarre?
He criticises all commercialism around the GAA?
He criticises fundraising dinners?
He thinks not for profits should be run for free.
He dismisses any work the GPA have done.
He mentions the elite nature of the county game. By definition it is elite. It will become more elite because county is box office and clubs and county boards see successful county teams as driving participation by kids, swelling membership and fees.
Anybody who says GAA is not a capitalist, commercial organisation is a fool. To criticise a players organisation for adopting a commercial, capitalist approach to things is deliberately ignorant and designed to fan flames.[/QUOTE]
How dare Brolly question your beloved capitalism.
and yet that majority don’t seem to think they are being neglected
GPA has a 24 hour hotline for its members. Athletics would kill for a 24 hot line - any other sport in Ireland would.
From a position where he makes money on back of the GAA via his media work then it is a bit hard to stomach.
Brolly is a very wealthy man. Very wealthy men attacking capitalism :rolleyes:
Mark Chapman shot John Lennon for less.
They should not be allow use the name “Gaelic Players Association”.
It should be the “Inter County Gaelic Players Association”