The headline us more dramatic than the article.
What caught my eye is a book due on the black&tans by Jim herlihy. He was a prime mover on the ric commemoration.
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Had that book / pamphlet, gave it away in 84/5 , small 80/ 90 pages-plain white cover, in hindsight maybe it was called “ The” Good old IRA” not many printed ( a few hundred at best)
Scoured secondhand book stores for another no joy
A fine piece today by Keith duggan
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I’m looking forward to the fg ff lads being confronted head on with what was done in the civil war when the centenaries come around. Will be a nice cough softening that might help them move on from some of their tiresome shit around sinn fein.
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Hopefully though I reckon the whures will just remain absent or largely quiet
By God
There you have it. The cold hard fact that if you want freedom you have to kill for it. It’s what youse Free Staters try to forget and say it was only the Nordies murdered innocents.
Well said @Corksfinedtboy
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Herlihy is a cunt. I heard him speak at a conference before in Ballykisteen. He is totally tone deaf and eulogised the RIC and the black and tans. I’m not sure but I think there is some connection that he talked about, maybe it was his father who used make the uniforms for RIC and that is where fascination grew. In later life he would visit graves of RIC who were killed (maybe 200 or so including black and tans) and take photos of headstones. If said graves fell into disrepair he would collect funds to restore. He did talk some length of difficulty of RIC men in the new state and this was particularly interesting. I remember thinking back though about how out of touch he was to the mood in the room and he waxing lyrical about the Black and tans like George Lee would about a third wave.
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Fuck him and his ilk
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Where “Mountainy men have sown” is an incredible read for anyone who wants to broaden their knowledge of that particular period. Hard enough book to get. If anyone wants a lend I’ll try and dig it out. A less heralded ambush between Macroom and Ballyvourney in a place called Coolavokig. If you ever travel between Killarney and Macroom you might notice a section of road with an S bend and up high you’ll see an old Irish Republic flag from 1916. Anyway disputes over number of auxies killed. Official accounts were 3 but IRA claimed 16/17 again. After bloody nose they got in Kilmichael official sources were keen to underestimate the death toll because of how Kilmichael affected morale of soldiers and perceived back "home " with highly publicised funerals. Anyway the auxies would never go near or raid the place again and it became an IRA controlled area.
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Know it
There’is or at least was a commeration there a few years back a brother of mine and a few others from the city attended,all republican but yet never heard much about it, they got yapping to a few old folk who filled them in, places like this all over Ireland need to be remembered , especially the ones that failed ( Upton ambush etc)
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Yeah there will probably be one next year for 100 year anniversary as well. Yeah I have only scraped the surface on this period of time. You’d meet some great people at events like that.
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They sourced metal badges ref events there ( commeration)
My father in law had great work put into a commemoration event to be held this year for a different incident but they had to scrap it cause of covid. Awful pity. I suppose they might be able to do an event in 2021 but it wouldn’t be the same.
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I think the lack of centenary celebrations is ideal for FG in their hypocritical campaign about sfs past. Themselves, the 5G crowd and Toby with his hatred of pubs have engineered this whole thing.
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Problem is if ppl don’t insist on these Uber important events to happen they won’t, next few years those who took the anti treaty side and died or ended up maimed or having to leave the country will be quietly forgotten if the free state government have anything to do with it , ppl should remember the treaty vote wasn’t a huge majority
Will there be a commemoration at Ballyseedy ?
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Reckon definitely, Kerry boys won’t leave that pass
For the weekend that it’s in it, there’s a great breakdown of the fraudulent history produced by Peter Hart in this version of the Irish History show.
Gets into it around 23 mins in and describes how he engaged in all manner of dodgy scholarship to present the IRA as sectarian in West Cork, and how his whole thesis started to fall apart once people started to take a closer look at his sources.
Because it was useful for attacking Republicans in the North it was just accepted without question by the Irish political media. Despite lots of questions about his evidence being raised by local historians right from the start.
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