The Rugby Thread (Part 1)

You’d wonder how footix type @Juhniallio continues to follow Manchester United given the damage.


I wouldn’t be too hard on @Juhniallio there is a prevailing narrative on TFK that rugby is the only dangerous sport out there and he has bought into it.

Lads with the fingers in the ears and the hands over the eyes and head high challenges being ignored weekly in GAA that would see a fella facing a 6 week suspension in rugby

You’d want to hate your children to let them play rugby.

So 2.? After some furious googling. Out of all the countries that play football. And one of the had 1 case.
So lets have a quick rugby google. I just did the 6 nations, but as a forum, we know there are only about 12 countries that play rugby.
5/6 instantly for the six nations countries… literally hundreds of rugby players,many of them well under 50.

Hmmmm

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20221123-former-players-to-sue-french-rugby-authorities-over-concussion

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/nearly-200-players-issue-legal-24576495

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An egg chasing.

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Whoa calm down there buddy … The tone of your initial post was a rock solid certainty that no FA had ever been sued. Don’t worry I won’t be flagging this to your missus or anything the young lads can still play soccer

What point are you trying to make?

We have on the record that at least two players from the North Western city football team in England that you happened to support as a child (and maintain that childish support into adulthood) have/had players with head related trauma injuries.

The facts are that mini rugby has been growing - in particular girls rugby. Yet here you are trolling away on it when girl’s soccer is shown to be just as dangerous as boys high school football. Any issues with that?

Anyone who is a supporter of team sports should be wary of this issue. You don’t give a shit though, because Paddy Footix doesn’t really give a damn about local sport and is all about the tv product.

He must have missed it on Sky Sports News.

Tone? The tone of what i said? The ‘tone’ argument is the sole refuge of women after they have realised they were wrong initially and now want to change tack.

Eh youv just completely brought the argument away from the point now and brought some perceived injustice into it. That’s definitely the refuge of a woman arguing

The very simple and salient point is that when compared, football is played in every country worldwide by billions. There are very few cases. Rugby is played in fuckall countries globally and has a tiny playing population and has a much higher ratio of brain damage and subsequent legal cases. If you don’t accept this then there’s not much more i can say.

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Fixed.

Jaysis. you have gone from zero to seeething in absolutely no time here pal :joy:

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Except of course the study that showed that youth girls soccer was as bad for concussions as high school American football, the poster child for CTE.

Even if it was less than twice, what moral stand are you taking by exposing them to concussion in football or GGA?

The other fact was that you were wrong on kids playing it. Your wife would have been making another excuse 10 years ago. Mini rugby is thriving.

It is also telling that her husband continues to scream at the tv over his fave English football team despite them behaving like this.

They’re all just cattle and a tv product to you. It’s arguably worse that you make such a big a deal about the “risk” in one but have no issue to exposing them to similar risks in other sports.

I notice here that most of the kids involved in youth rugby have parents who never played, and the parents who did play rugby tend to send their kids to any sport but rugby. A pal of mine is a hungry sort so still coaches an AIL side, but refuses to allow his kids play rugby. All these stories of former players in their 30s and 40s with dementia have really shaken lads who used to be involved.

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It’s very obvious that they butchered the Heineken Cup structure. The 6 pools of 4 with only 8 teams advancing to the quarter-finals was Box Office and always had an element of intrigue on the final day of the pool. The new pool structure is beyond daft and I wrongly assumed it would be dispensed with after Covid. The extra round of 16 has become an irrelevance. Although at least they got rid of the two legged nature of it this year. Leinster playing Connacht in a second leg last year was utterly pointless when they already held a 40 point lead from the first leg. Not to mention Ulster sealing a famous win in Toulouse only for it to be rendered meaningless in the 2nd leg.

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So nothing to say about the ratio of brain injury to amount of players?

Bizarre.
I told you people were stopping their kids playing it for fear of serious head injury. I told you my rugby playing mate was too. Another poster who teaches in a famed rugby school said the amount of injuries was shocking and he’d stop his kids playing too.
You dismiss this as anecdotal and said it wasn’t true and doesnt count because ‘mini rugby is thriving…’ apparently.
You’re ignoring all the studies and news reports about brain injury in ex players and have found some study of womens football. Would you not look at the huge data set of professional mens football for the last 20 years? Same sex, same time period? Kind of like for like you know?

What exactly are you saying? That there is a head issue injury in rugby? Of course there is. It Dominates discussion of the game at pro level…are you looking for an award for saying it again?

You are just ignoring the counter point that there are no contact sports immune from this

Here’s your post. You said there was no additional risk of playing rugby. There clearly is.