Good ā¦ get it into you, you cunt.
Tom will do what Tom does. Key to Sunday night is whether the Pats can contain the Rams offence.
Whatās your fucking problem?
Trying to present themselves as underdogs, led by Jewlian Edelman, pathetic.
The Greatest Check Down Passer Of All Time
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They are underdogs ā¦ Truth is they shouldnt even be at this stage.
Huh?
Where did I say he couldnāt throw a deep ball? Big difference between being able to throw a deep ball and being one of the best deep ball QBs of all time.
I donāt think even his biggest fan boys would try and argue that he is one of the greatest deep ball quarter backs in the game, that would be ludicrous. There are numerous active QBs with better passer ratings for deep balls that Tomās over the last decade, before you even mention the likes of Marino, Elway etc
But when it comes to checkdown he is the goat, of that there is no questions.
Yeah - I was just saying that when he has had deep threats he can go as long as needs be.
Tom has figured out long ago tho that the easiest way to beat someone is short routes over the centre - heāll motion a receiver to read the D and then send TE/WR wide to get what he wants - you give up out wide to defend inside and and heāll hit Gronk ā¦ cover that and heāll hit his RB with a pass ā itās very simple football but very hard to stop ā what really makes him the GOAT is the quickness of his decision making. Heās processing all of the above and getting the ball off in less than 2 seconds.
Im not arguing with you, his ability to execute checkdowns is unsurpassed. You donāt need to elaborate on it as nobody is disagreeing about tom being the King of the checkdown
No, no, no. Tom is there to throw the ball 6 yards laterally as directed. He didnāt figure anything out, belichick and mcdaniels did.
BB is the Pep Guardiola of amercian football
ATLANTA ā From causing stage fright in the bathroom to sleeping at Gillette Stadium during a low point in his career to some of his on-field heroics, so many Patriots have a vastly different favorite story about Tom Brady.
The Athletic polled a number of current and former Patriots over the past week, and the question was simple: Whatās your favorite Tom Brady story?
Only the best responses made the cut.
Wide receivers coach Chad OāShea : When we lost to the Chiefs in 2014 on Monday night. I ride the same bus as he does. I watched him get on the bus in Arrowheadās parking lot. There was a lot of noise at the time and a lot of speculation of whether Tom was done and if Jimmy (Garoppolo) was going to be the quarterback. (Brady) got on the bus, grabbed his computer and started watching film on the Bengals, watched film from the parking lot to the airport. Then we get off the bus in Foxboro, and the players were heading to the playersā parking lot to get in their cars and leave. Tom got off the bus and hung a right with the coaches, went in and slept in the building that night, got up the next morning, looked at us and goes, āWeāre going to play well this week, and Iām going to do everything I can for us to win this game.ā It was then that I knew we were going to play well in the Cincinnati game, and it really helped catapult us into the season that we had. Thatās the story that comes to mind ā what he did that evening to ignore the noise, to have enough mental toughness to move forward, and I think it was the difference in our year. I really do.
Tight end Rob Gronkowski: When he tripped and fell (below) in the Tennessee game (this season). Thatās a funny one.
Former cornerback Ty Law : I would say one of my most vivid memories of Tom is when we went out for a team dinner (in 2001 after he replaced an injured Drew Bledsoe). At the time, I had sold him my house when he was a young guy, when Drew got hurt. Heās a Michigan guy. I tried to take him under my wing as much as I could. He said something to myself and Lawyer Milloy when we were out at a team dinner. He said, āYou know what, I aināt giving it (the starting job) back.ā At the time, myself and Lawyer were like, āHell yeah, thatās the spirit. Thatās how youāre supposed to think.ā But in the back of our mind, we were like, āShiiiiiiit, not with that check Drew got.ā We were a defensive team at the time, and we were like, āHey, keep doing what youāre doing because as a defense, weāre going to hold it down if you minimize the mistakes with the defense weāve got.ā Because he wasnāt the Tom Brady of today. Even though we had seen something very special in him, as far as the politics and the things you have in football, sometimes it goes beyond your talent and drive.
When he said that, he wasnāt bullshitting, but he didnāt say it in a malicious way. You heard all the talk coming about Drew coming back and this and that, whatever is going to happen, but hats off to coach (Bill) Belichick for making the call. We had seen the potential that Tom had, but I donāt think the world had seen that. (Others were) expecting the face of the franchise and a perennial All-Pro in Drew Bledsoe to come back in and take back over. But in Tomās mind, he wasnāt giving it back, and he was right. I thought that was amazing for him to even have that mindset at that time. Because the reality is in most situations, youāve got your marquee quarterback coming back, and thatās what it is. Bill decided to go with the hot hand. He went to the young guy that he could build the team around. And mind you, Drew had just got done signing a massive ($100 million) contract. All of those things could have gotten in the way. Tom didnāt let it happen. He made himself irreplaceable.
I think his determination, his drive and his will to win bled through to coach Belichick, first and foremost, and he believed in what he could do. No one can ever question that now, even though there were questions then. Personally, I didnāt question it because he was doing enough and we had a strong enough of a defense that it didnāt matter who the quarterback was. Tom, his incredible journey, to be able to witness that from start to finish, a guy that was coming into his own.
He bought my house. He wasnāt making any money then, so I left him all the TVs and all the furniture because I had just signed my big contract. So you pass it down. And I might add, shit, I gave him like a $130,000, $150,000 discount on the house, too. But thatās what youāve got to do. He was one of the first in, one of the last out of the building every day. To see that from a quarterback who is bumping heads, getting in the middle of the crowd, head butting, shoulder-pad smacking, it was a different type of energy that he brought than what weād seen from face-of-the-organization quarterbacks, no disrespect to anyone else. Tom was just different in terms of team camaraderie.
Safety Duron Harmon : I would say the initial meeting. Iām using the bathroom. Iām peeing. He comes up right next to me and starts using the bathroom. I look at him (thinking), āThatās Tom Brady.ā He looks at me and smiles, āHey Duron, how are you doing? Welcome to the Pats. Iām Tom.ā Iām literally just like (in awe), āHey Tom, how are you?ā I felt like I probably stuttered a little bit, too. Before we had to work out, I literally ran right to my phone. I texted ā she was my girlfriend at the time, my wife now ā āBabe, Tom Brady knows my name!ā From that moment, it just let me see how great of a guy he is, a guy who has obviously been in the league at that time for 14 years, and he already knew the rookies. You could see heās a team guy. Heās a great guy. And heās going to do everything for us being our quarterback. Iām so privileged to be his teammate and his friend.
Former offensive lineman Joe Andruzzi (Story 1) : Iāll never forget Tom getting in the huddle in New Orleans (in Super Bowl XXXVI against the Rams), getting that ball and we had a little over a minute left. We heard John Madden say (after the game) we should have taken the knee and gone to overtime. Tom looked at everybody, looked at the other 10 guys in the huddle with a smirk on his face and said, āLetās go do this thing.ā He didnāt get in that huddle biting his fingernails, getting nervous. He got in that huddle calm, cool, collected and was ready to go out there and sling it around. We found out later on, Drew told him on the sideline ā and that was his other coach who stood by his side the whole year, Drew didnāt backstab anybody, Itās not easy to lose your job because of an injury, but Drew was a captain and overall did a great job on the sideline as another coach for Tom ā he said, āGo out there and sling that thing.ā He did. He stood behind him, got everybody all fired up, moved that ball down and we knew we had a great kicker standing on the sideline (Adam Vinatieri), another guy who is still playing and looking like a grandpa.
Joe Andruzzi (Story 2) : We had an (offensive) line dinner in Boston. Tom showed up and ended up buying us dinner that night.
Joe Andruzzi (Story 3) : If you want a funny story, as a rookie, somebody put blue dye in his socks. He came in from practice after sweating, and his feet from his ankles to his toes were like Smurf feet. They were blue feet, took a while for them to wear off.
Joe Andruzzi (Story 4) : We played backgammon in the locker room when we had some time between meetings. Tom was such a competitor that almost every time he lost, heād slam the board and break it. Heād have to send one of the interns or one of the equipment guys to the store to go get another backgammon board.
Running backs coach Ivan Fears : As a rookie, at the end of practice, that was his time. He got to work with the rookies, direct the show and the whole thing. The one thing I remember is almost every day I had to run him off the field. If I didnāt stop him, he would kill those rookies. That was his work ethic. He never had quit. There was no end to him. It was, āGo, go, go, go, go! Hey, one more, just one more!ā (And Iād respond), āWeāre going in.ā To this day, I always thought that made him different.
Linebacker Dontāa Hightower : My favorite one was the damn Saints game (below) my second year in 2013 (when Brady threw a game-winning touchdown pass to Kenbrell Thompkins with 5 seconds left). That was probably my first time I ever saw him do the damn Tom Brady comeback thing, and that shit was elite.
Former linebacker Willie McGinest : Before the first Super Bowl when heās running around going crazy, head butting everybody, getting out of control when weāre in the tunnel, and I had to calm him down because, āIf you knock yourself out, you probably wonāt be able to play in this game.ā He was just so hyped. There was so much emotion running through everybody. I had to grab him and actually pin him against the wall and calm him down because heās jumping around head butting everybody and going crazy, which is something he did every week. But he just went bananas.
Quarterback Brian Hoyer : It was probably when we got stuck in Rochester, N.Y. After we beat the Bills, we couldnāt fly home, so we went out. Everybody was going out. It was just us there together, and we had to find a hotel last minute. Someone found a restaurant called Dinosaur Bar-B-Que in Rochester. People are like, āCome on, come with us.ā So we go over there, and weāre having a good time. Somehow, there was a beer chugging contest. I think (Julian) Edelman challenged him. And (Brady scoffs) to him. It was like (Hoyer picks up a glass and immediately slams it back down) ā gone. The place erupted because it was kind of a moment, even at that time, I think it was my third year and Tom was a very high-profile individual. So you didnāt always get a chance, unless it was a team dinner or something like that, to be out in a social occasion with him. The linemen are going crazy, and they loved it. That was a cool story. A lot of people donāt get to see that side of him.
Former defensive end Rob Ninkovich : Probably my retirement (in 2017) and him giving me a hug and being a little emotional about it. For me to come in as a street, walk-on free agent (in 2009) and play as long as I did for the Patriots and earn the respect of Tom Brady, thatās pretty special to me. We have a good relationship, and he might tell me, āYou retired too early,ā from time to time. That might be on the discussion every time we talk. Heās just always been really supportive. Not only is he the best quarterback ever, he is gracious with how he presents himself.
Former wide receiver Donte Stallworth : Iāll never forget when we were playing the Cowboys (in 2007). There was a play that was put in during the week for Randy (Moss). I think I had run it once during the week in practice, maybe twice. You know by the time the game starts, even by Friday or Saturday, which plays are meant for you, which plays are meant for other guys on the team. You kind of know your role by the end of the week. It was funny because I knew the play was for Randy, but something the night before ā when Brady always holds his meetings the night before games with basically all the pass catchers ā I wasnāt a thousand percent sure on it. I know how Brady is. He likes to be damn near perfect, at the very least on the communication, techniques and all that. I remember sitting there, and heās going through everything. He went over a couple things with me. Something told me to ask him about this route because we were still figuring out how to run the route, but again, it was Randyās route. I wasnāt really that concerned. Something told me to ask, and I didnāt.
So by the time we get to the game, it was the start of the fourth quarter and Josh (McDaniels) calls the play. The first thing Iām thinking is, āOh shit, I should have asked.ā Everybody is breaking the huddle now, so I look at Tom and Iām like, āTommy, what do you want me to do?ā Because he and I hadnāt really gone into depth about it at all, and there were three or four options on this specific route that we would run versus a number of different coverages. So he looks at me, then takes a peek at the defense, then looks back at me and nods his head and says, āJust go deep.ā I knew exactly what he meant. ā¦
Iām thinking, āCool, I hope this works out.ā It was a perfect defense. Iām sure he visualized the coverage they were going to play. Luckily, it was the perfect coverage for me to run that play because they played cover-8 with the run-support safety.
So I bluffed him and just ran by him, and that left me wide open. As soon as Brady hits his back foot, heās feeling pressure, so he steps up. Iām still running down the field, and now the window is closing. Brady just slings it in there. I knew it was going to be a big play because I felt I was open. I felt the corner behind me, and the safety had run up to support the run on the play-action. Brady squeezed it in there really tight.
I ended up scoring (a 69-yard touchdown), and I came back to the sideline. And me and Brady just looked at each other and just busted out laughing. Iām like, āMan, this guy is the GOAT.ā We just essentially drew up a play in the sand while the clock was running, and the offensive line was moving toward the line of scrimmage and everyone else was running out to get set. Just him having the knowledge and having the confidence, not just in himself but also the wide receiver, to be able to get that ball in there and be on the same page. That was the thing I always appreciated the most about Brady.
Iāve played with a lot of great quarterbacks, a lot of good quarterbacks, but playing with a guy like Brady just makes your job as the wide receiver so much easier. I canāt attest enough how fun it was to play with a guy like that.
Kicker Stephen Gostkowski : I just remember being a rookie (in 2006) and being so intimidated by a lot of those guys ā him, (Mike) Vrabel, (Tedy) Bruschi, all those guys. I remember looking up to them so much. As a rookie, they give you a hard time. So having that and being like, āOh man, why is it like that?ā We used to do the hose (when Brady would soak the field and Belichick would make each rookie dive for a football) before practice. Weād have to run through it. And Iām nervous as can be as it is, then we run through that and Tom Brady picks up a giant thing of sand and throws it right at me. Iām just like, āMan, I used to really look up to that guy.ā He was also one of the ones who gave me the nickname, āMeat,ā and that stuck forever. But Tom is the best guy. It was just funny coming in as a rookie, really looking up to somebody, and those guys really give all rookies a hard time. And I deserved it. Iām sure I was a punk, so whatever he gave to me, I deserved.
Former linebacker Rosevelt Colvin : As I went into New England (in 2003), they had just come off the Super Bowl a year or so earlier. We played them the year before. Everybody was just singing Tomās praises, and Iām going in there like I really donāt care. Like most free agents ā and Iāve heard other free agents say the same thing ā from the outside looking in, youāre like, āMan, whatever, itās just another team.ā Once you get there and you experience everything yourself, itās a totally different mindset and thought process that you get to appreciate more of what they do. You get to experience what theyāre doing firsthand.
My best Tom Brady story ā golden boy, all this other stuff ā when I signed as a free agent, the first people I met were Ty Law and Tedy Bruschi. I didnāt meet Tom until my first offseason workout, and I was coming off of shoulder surgery. Tom and the quarterbacks were in the bubble doing drills, throwing balls. Honestly, Iād never seen the quarterbacks in Chicago do this. They may have. But they were throwing into a net that had little squares. It was him, Rohan Davey and I think Damon Huard. They were throwing into a net, and Tom was standing maybe 5-10 yards away from the net. Iām the big free-agent signing for that offseason. Iām coming in. I feel comfortable. So I look at Tom like, āHey man, whatās up? Youāre supposed to be the starting quarterback, and youāre standing 10 yards from the net throwing that? I can do better than that.ā
So we made a friendly wager. I said Iāll stand about 30 yards or 40 yards back, and maybe it was $100. I said, ā$100, Iāll put this in the net from 30 yards deep.ā He says, āBet.ā I literally just threw it up there. I aimed, and I was trying to make it. And it goes in. He laughs, chuckles, and they go on with their workout. I go on with my workout. The next day, I got a stack of ones in my locker, $100 paid, and that was my first experience with Tom when it comes to his competitive nature. I had the thought process of, āSure, you could do it, but I was able to do it better.ā Then I was able to witness what it is that makes Tom who he is. Itās the little things.
The crazy thing, I do this with my son right now. My son is 13 in the eighth grade. Just think about kids that walk into a basketball gym, and the first thing they want to do is shoot 3s. I tell my son all the time, āDude, youāve got to start in closer. Start right here around the rim. Shoot 10 shots one-handed. Back up, shoot free throws. Warm up your mechanics up. Then get deeper.ā And thatās what Tom was doing. He was preparing himself for the workout, and it was just starting. I was just ribbing him just to mess with him. At the end of the day, his attention to detail, how to do things a certain way with the TB12 method and all the people heās working with has been successful to him for an extended period of time. When I see what happens on the field, itās not a surprise to me.
Ty Law.
Drew Bledsoe āperennial All-Proā.
Perennial means never now?
I love you.
BA ba ramsy have You any wool. Yes sir yes sir 6 rings full
One for the qb one for the rams one for the little lad who coaches all the rams.
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