Tom Humphriesâ and Dara OâBriainâs simplistic caricature of modern rugby is truly laughable. Humphries needs to move on from that sort of Protestant, toff and class rhetoric. Heâs writing articles on rugby from 50 years ago. It just doesnât tally with the modern game in my experience.
[quote=âHBV*â]3 minutes after this post you called Jeremy Guscott a sneery English cunt 
and tell us how you know exactly that he has no personal grievance? all i see in your post is hyperbole fueled by your opinion, the same as the rest of us.[/quote]
That was a cunt of the year thread was it not? Youâre the one alleging personal grievance, not me, so go ahead and counter all his arguments and show thatâs all his articles boil down to. Show that rugby isnât a minority sport. Show that it isnât the sport of the private school class. Show that it doesnât have a miniscule impact on the majority of Irish communities and that it doesnât barely exist as an organised sport in most of the country. Off with you. Those are the points he makes. Dispute them.
Tom Humphryes you fat beardy cunt you took one hell of a beating
not to mention dara oâbriain, the unfunny fat cunt
Roysh Tom, you loike totally got ripped by Drico and Rog and Kearno and all the goys. Fock off you bogball loving former.
Thought Kearney had a poor game though.
OMFG, thatâs so, loike, unfunny, sorcha
who is disputing the facts? im not, facts are facts and but i said you can rip any sport apart in that format if you wished. but why would you do that if you have no grievance?
i think humps has a personal grievance. i think this because he keeps writing the same article with the same tired old cliches, over and over and over and over.
now, tell me again i think i missed it, why do you think its not personal for tom? you seemed fairly sure
[quote=âHBV*â]who is disputing the facts? im not, facts are facts and but i said you can rip any sport apart in that format if you wished. but why would you do that if you have no grievance?
i think humps has a personal grievance. i think this because he keeps writing the same article with the same tired old cliches, over and over and over and over.
now, tell me again i think i missed it, why do you think its not personal for tom? you seemed fairly sure[/quote]
HBV-
hasnât he written in this in one of his balanced critiques of rugby? Wasnât it Suttonians that he had trouble getting a game for? And then those horrible UCD rugby types wouldnât be friends with him?
[quote=âW.B. Yeatsâ]HBV-
hasnât he written in this in one of his balanced critiques of rugby? Wasnât it Suttonians that he had trouble getting a game for? And then those horrible UCD rugby types wouldnât be friends with him?[/quote]
ye, he turned up for it as a fresher in ucd and was last man picked or something and took the hump(h)
pathetic carry on
take about a 25 year grudge, even a woman doesnt hold a grudge that long
[quote=âHBV*â]who is disputing the facts? im not, facts are facts and but i said you can rip any sport apart in that format if you wished. but why would you do that if you have no grievance?
i think humps has a personal grievance. i think this because he keeps writing the same article with the same tired old cliches, over and over and over and over.
now, tell me again i think i missed it, why do you think its not personal for tom? you seemed fairly sure[/quote]
Theyâre not cliches. They are facts as youâve correctly identified. For all the hype over rugby in this country over the last ten years the IRFU has made no effort to spread the game beyond itâs traditional havens. There are hurling people in Donegal and Monaghan who have made a bigger effort than that organisation to promote their game with laughable resources by comparison. The IRFU have a fleet of professional players and yet how many schools have been visited? How many summer camps have been set up? How would you think this looks to someone like Humphreys trying to promote Gaa in Dublin city with no professional marketing or backing? It looks like an arrogant clique who are happy to keep their game for themselves and their private schools. With all then success and publicity the sport has enjoyed, any real intent to become a sport of the ordinary people would be reflected in clubs cropping up all over the country but that is simply not the case.
all valid points but wheres your evidence that Humphreys is not settling personal grievances through his newspaper column?
Actually HBV- not all WTBâs points are valid
Plenty of new clubs have sprung up around the country- Carrick on Shannon and Swords are newly founded clubs off the top of my head, I also played rugby in Donegal
Plenty of new schools have started playing- St Patâs Navan, St Melâs in Longford, just two former GAA strongholds that are now playing.
But anyway lets not allow the facts get in the way
If these are all valid points I would think you need to produce evidence that he is. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. Your smears are not enough.
my proof is years of repetition, same old same old same old.
the man has issues with rugby, if he hadnât he would just let it go, he has enough to be writing about i would have thought.
[quote=âW.B. Yeatsâ]Actually HBV- not all WTBâs points are valid
Plenty of new clubs have sprung up around the country- Carrick on Shannon and Swords are newly founded clubs off the top of my head, I also played rugby in Donegal
Plenty of new schools have started playing- St Patâs Navan, St Melâs in Longford, just two former GAA strongholds that are now playing.
But anyway lets not allow the facts get in the way[/quote]
rugby is easy to knock wby, as i said earlier you can tear apart any sport if you wanted to.
but why would you, its only sport
[quote=âW.B. Yeatsâ]Actually HBV- not all WTBâs points are valid
Plenty of new clubs have sprung up around the country- Carrick on Shannon and Swords are newly founded clubs off the top of my head, I also played rugby in Donegal
Plenty of new schools have started playing- St Patâs Navan, St Melâs in Longford, just two former GAA strongholds that are now playing.
But anyway lets not allow the facts get in the way[/quote]
WTB, you clearly do not know what you are talking about. Any school that is willing to allow an IRFU development officer in will get one. I am from a GAA heartland which also has a reasonably thriving rugby club. There is a youth development officer for the area who goes into 24 national schools in a 20 mile radius on a weekly basis and takes them for an hour once a week. He also goes into three secondary schools and all three have a rugby team this year, one of them never had a team until this year in fact.
There are regualr blitz held for the national school kids, I refereed at one last year and Doug Howlett, Donnacha O Callaghan and Shaun Payne came along and spent 4 hours there. Howlett played a few minutes on the team of each national school, this was about two weeks bofore the HEC final as well. The Munster Branch and the club jointly sponsored buses to pick all the kids up from their schools and dropped them back afterwards. This is going on all over the country.
There are clubs starting up pretty regulalrly, mainly they only have juveniles though when they start up but the hope would be in years to come they will have full adult teams. I think your from Clare I know of two clubs that have started in clare, West Clare warrior and east clare somehthing or other, Kenmare is starting an underage club, Ballyhoura has an underage club. Other reasonably new clubs in Killorglin, Estuary (west Lk somewhere), Mitchelstown. There is a thriving club in Corca Duibhne back around Ballydavid.
Have a look at the map here and not even half the clubs are on this.
http://www.irishrugby.ie/23_8378.php
So whatever you may feel about rugby is your own opinion. But dont come on here peddling bullshit and sell it as FACT, when it quite clearly isnt.
Thats actually plain wrong. I know for a fact that in Cork they are going after several GAA strongholds through schools and rural towns. They are streets ahead of the GAA in Cork for this, its just not coming to fruition just yet. They are bringing them through young. I know in a few towns that the Rugby club now gets the same numbers as the GAA for young fellas training on the saturday mornings etc.
[quote=âW.B. Yeatsâ]Heâs been on at this shite for years but has now just found a different outlet for it.
Iâd say the editor told Tom to fcuk off this week.
Heâs so mealy mouthed about rugby its hilarious- I think his trued bitterness comes from not being picked regularly enough on some U19s side and not fitting in with the rugger boys in UCD- Iâd say thereâs a lot of folks Tom wouldnât fit in with, rugby, soccer or GAA
WBY[/quote]
thinks its a bit simplistic to say itâs just bitternessâŚ
I think its pretty obvious that humphries lives, eats and brathes sportâŚheâs been to so many great sporting eventsâŚthe great thing about sport on any level is the rawnessâŚI could see how humphries has a real problem with rugby from his own era because it was elitest and politicalâŚthat to any real sportsman is the greatest crime you can commitâŚYou saw how it was dealt with regarding south Africa back in the day with apartheid in athletics⌠sport should be all about ability and not where your born or went to schoolâŚIn fairness to rugby they have come out of the fog in the last 10 years or soâŚthey have been very active in Tallaght for years nowâŚ