This looks like a job for Harry Kane
That was a woeful Spurs performance. We are not as bad as the 17th where we finished last season, but not a whole lot better. Weāll do well to finish top half and have so many bang average players.
Average players but on another thread you are blaming the manager? 
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I blame Ange. Prince Andrew no longer 
Not blaming the manager for anything yet. He has really poor players to work with and three of our better players Maddison, Kulusevski and Solanke are long term injuries. We havenāt a player currently, from midfield up who is Top 6 standard. We did finish 17th last season. His marquee signing this summer Xavi Simons looks utterly hopeless, a Ā£50 million version of Anthony.
We have won just 3 of our last 19 home league games (against relegation threatened or relegated sides, Man U, Southampton and Burnley) and the style of play is just woeful. Iām reading we are setting all kinds of unwanted records in our home games for this XG variable thing.
I didnāt know too much about Coach Frank as unlike the footix and hipsters I wouldnāt be watching Brentford too often. I was somewhat concerned when two of the most knowledgeable and astute soccer types on here @Bandage and @Little_Lord_Fauntleroy were hailing the appointment as a dud from the off. It is welcome that things have tightened up considerably at the back since the open door policy to defending Big Ange operated. He needs better attacking players but will need to start showing signs that he can set up a team to play attacking football.
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Coach Frank has started this thing of players going to all four corners of the ground after home matches to acknowledge fans. If you deliver an utterly tepid no-show of a performance in a London derby against one of your hated rivals that was served up yesterday, that short of a reaction is an inevitability.
Since beating Burnley at home open day, itās 1 point from 12 at home. Lost to Bournemouth, Aston Villa and Chelsea and a 96th minute equaliser to salvage a point against bottom and still winless Wolverhampton Wanderers.
Weāve picked up 13 out of 15 points away. Wins at Citeh, West Spam, Leeds, Everton and came from 2-0 down to draw at Brighton & Home Albion.
Coach Frank has the team well set up for playing away and the next away game is at Woolwich. Seem incapable at the moment of playing on the front foot at home.
As time goes on Ange delivering a trophy for the club will start to be recognised for the achievement it was. Had a bit of luck in that it was United they faced in the final, but even then the odds were stacked against him.
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Why do you say the odds were stacked against Spurs facing Man U in the UEFA Cup final last season? Strikes me as a very odd and poorly informed comment. Spurs beat Man U home and away in the league last season, beat Man U in the League Cup and the season before Spurs took 4 points from 6 against Man U.
Spurs went into that UEFA Cup with a better record in the tournament than Man U having won 2 out of 3 UEFA Cup finals previously appeared in. Man U went in having won 1 from 2 UEFA Cup finals. Spurs now stand at 4 wins from 6 in European finals, a 66% success rate. Man U are 5 from 9, just a 55% win rate.
Spurs are maybe a bit like your own Down Gaelic footballers. When we end up in a final, we generally get the job done and expect to do so. We have won 8 out of 9 FA Cup finals. It was semi finals for years that were the problem. Once we got to that UEFA Cup final, there was no way we were losing to that Man U team.
Speaks to the strength of the 24/25 EPL that two of the worst teams in the league swatted aside all that came before them in the UEFA Cup. Similar to 2018/9 where Carlos Kickball was no match for John Bull and Spurs marched to the final of the European Cup
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It is a poor quality tournament now such is the gap between the top few monied Western European leagues and the rest. Spurs negotiated the likes of Bodo Glint from the Norwegian Arctic Circle, Qarabag from Azarbaijan, Ferencvaros from Hungary and AZ Alkmaar from the Netherlands to win it. Tier 2 England clubs would be as strong as those. Nice to win it and all but not a patch on the standard when we won it in 1984.
Going after another good and genuine manager. Theyāre a nothing club.
Spurs won the final because Ange was able to play the Porro, Romero, Van Der Ven and Udogie back four, something he hadnāt been able to do all last season.
What washed going forward at Brentford was never going to at Spurs, heāll have to figure out how to get more from Kudus and Xavi Simons. Bissouma is probably their best passing midfielder bar Madison so he needs to get him right.
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Ange went into the final with the fans wanting him gone and the chairman wanting him gone. He also had a squad with no history of delivering success for the club, in comparison to Amorim who had players who recently won the FA cup. The odds were stacked against him.
From what I can make out from your stats there, going into the final United had a far greater history of silverware in Europe, and a better hit rate in European finals than Spurs - I hope itās a wet day wherever you are and you didnāt waste too much of your afternoon consulting the history books.
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Poor kid got knocked senseless before 10 mins and the fans abuse him. Football fans are scum
Spurs ultimately won the tournament because from the Eintracht Frankfurt second leg of the quarter final in Germany onwards, the players more or less assumed control, said we should be winning this tournament because we have the best players and will be winning it if we play sensibly and ditch the suicide tactics of Angeball which had seen them concede 60+ league goals in both 2023/24 and 2024/25.
Spurs shut up shop and played as ugly as a Spurs team has ever played in Frankfurt and then in the final in Bilbao and got the job done and the monkey off their back. Sometimes a team wins in spite of the manager. The hapless Juande Ramos was the manager when Spurs previously won a trophy, the League Cup in 2008.
That Micky Van de Ven goal.
One for the things that are wrong thread, but videos of lads discussing goal and not actually showing the video.
Stretcher for @ChairmanDan as he ships a crunching belt from the Mournemanā¦.
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Mickey van me bollix, its been done