Tell that to Ewan, mate. He ignores these facts.
The Government have been trying to âdecentraliseâ Ireland for a couple of decades, in fact far longer with special grants and investment outside the capital.
The reason that things cluster in Dublin is the same as in any other country.
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So why would plowing money into an already successful county promote gaelic games. Should they not focus on areas the game is struggling. Look at the hurling, a huge amount of the over funding is due to this obsession with making dublin a hurling power. They won a league, reached an all ireland semi final, but still the money flew in. Meanwhile a lack of coaches and general funding let the game wither in other counties who desperately needed it.
Itâs a minority sport in Dublin. They need to promote it
The cap rate would be open to negotiation, but I think redistribution of commercial revenue is certainly the most obvious route to go down if people genuinely want to see some sort of a levelling of the playing field, as it were, because this is the area where Dublin have the biggest advantage of all.
For all the moaning, Iâve yet to see any genuine proposals to change things from Ewan, Parky or anybody else besides crying âsplit Dublin!â
Ewan and Parky have a bad case of cognitive dissonance on this one. On the one hand theyâre saying that Dublin are winning because of money, yet they offer no proposals about redistribution.
If they genuinely believe that Dublin are only so dominant because of money, why arenât they offering proposals about how to change things in this regard?
And if they believe that a levelling of the playing field as regards money would change things - which is the logical outcome of the above thinking - why are they still continuing to cry for Dublin to be split?
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I have.
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Was the money to make Dublin a âpowerâ or to increase the playing population of Dublin hurlers.
Also - can you clarify, is the money the cause of success or not. Yourself (and Ewan) seem to be strongly arguing that itâs a imevitable factor in Dublin footballs current success yet youâve just told me that lots of money did nearly fuck all for Dublinâs hurling success.
It seems like itâs magic money - it achieves or doesnât achieve whatever point you are trying to make
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And if they want genuine levelling - I presume Ewan wants some of Kildares resources to go to Carlow, KK and Wicklow football.
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Er the GGA struggles in large areas of Dublin.
For all this talk about the likes of Cuala. There are basically three GGA clubs on the south eastern corridor of Dublin (outside of UCD which is different) in Cuala, Clana Gael and Crokes. Cuala and Crokes are very big clubs absolutely, but you are talking about a population in the 100s of thousands.
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What? the money turned dublin from a hurling backwater into a team that won the league.(proof what it achieves) And the money poured into dublin was used to hire coaches, improve facilities etc which is the reason for dublins footbalss success. If you think money is irrelevant, why did dublin campaign to be funded as a province. When they already had the highest return of sponsorship and paltry travel and other expenses compared to other counties. The dublin board seemed to realise what more money would bring, and they were right
Iâve never argued that money was irrelevant - I was pointing out that your argument for hurling was different than your argument for football.
Of course Dublin argued for more money - name a county board that didnât.
Name a county board that got it. My argument was the rising tide lifted both boats.
You also seem to ignore that dublin always had massive advantages (and this should be let continue forever, or balanced?) but success came after the injection of funds. Was that just a massive coincidence?
They didnât to the same level - but strategically why would they? You only spend money protecting existing markets if theyâre under threat. Apart from some minimal penetration by rugby in GAA heartlands thatâs not the case. You then focus resources on the juiciest markets. Bottom line that was always Dublin above the others. Interesting that Belfast seems to be next.
Youâre right in that Dublin has always been a sleeping giant. Thereabouts throughout the nineties/noighties. I donât think the cash was what swung the balance - more like eventually getting the right group of players and culture, falling over the line in 2011 then winning begets winning. Correlation does not equal causation.
Answer me this - if money is such a factor why hasnât there been dominance at underage? Surely with dev officers etc this is where youâd first see the effects?
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How many minor and u21 all irelands have they won since 07 lets say, and how many in the ten years previous in comparison
Dublin have won one All-Ireland minor title since 1984, in 2012.
Theyâve won four All-Ireland under-21 titles since 2010.
Interestingly, Galway won one All-Ireland minor title and four All-Ireland under-21 titles between 2002 and 2013.
Maybe that was that all down to funding too?
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No money = no underage all irelands
Money arrives = 5 underage all irelands
Dublin won the 2003 All-Ireland under-21 football title, having lost the 2002 final.
They also reached the 2001 and 2003 minor finals, losing both only in replays.
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Journalists just donât want to do the hard work anymore. Relying on a pie chart somebody sends you on Twitter. What happened to looking at original sources of data. Verifying facts. Ffs sake. That is the way it is gone these days.
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