Seriously ?
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I moved out to the eastern suburbs 12 months ago pal. Maybe check your PMs once in a while.
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It works both ways surely? Good timing once again to come and prop up Sidney.
You can’t compare a protest at a building to residential social housing
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People lived in an unsafe building for six weeks pal, irrespective of the sentiments of what they were doing. Astounding hypocrisy to ignore safety concerns with Apollo house and a year later use it as a prop for his left wing rhetoric. Surprised at you.
Don’t forget his crowing for pitch invasions generally.
Health and safety regulations are a nuisance you see when they stop the working classes having a bit of fun.
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I understand the cladding used was an Aluminium Composite panel. I use this all the time for printing as signage, it’s basically a low density Polyethelene board sandwiched between two thin (0.3 or 0.5mm) aluminium sheets. It’s a great product with many uses. The Polyethelene is flammable, but I understand there is a fire resistant alternative used in construction. It is absolutely bizarre that the fire resistant core wasn’t used. I can’t believe there was no sprinkler system in the building. It’s 2017 for fucks sake.
The idea of people frantically trying to get their children out of that don’t bear thinking about. It’s truly, truly awful.
Is Apollo House clad in flammable material, mate?
Do safety standards only apply to flammable external cladding, mate?
It’s so telling that you consider people being angry at 150 people dying in an entirely preventable fire to be “bile”.
I’d like to see you head down to the streets of North Kensington and tell the people there that they’re “spouting bile”.
I’d say there’s two chances of you telling that to somebody there to their face.
The likes of you would charge homeless people rent for sleeping under a bridge if you could get away with it.
Everyone is appalled and angry, but you’re the only one on here politicising this tragedy to reinforce your left wing views. All I’ve done is highlight your hypocrisy.
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You seem to be a bit slow, so you give the standard cliche response of a right-wing fool - “stop politicising it”.
It’s an inherently political issue.
Only idiots like you can’t see that.
So, why should I not politicise this inherently political issue?
This couldn’t be more political.
Is it because it offends your politics?
It is, isn’t it?
In January 2016, 39% of Tory MPs were landlords.
With the vast majority of the Tory party, they voted overwhelmingly against a Labour amendment to the Housing and Planning Act which would required all private rented accommodation to be “fit for human habitation”, because “it would be a burden on landlords and discourage people from renting out homes”.
Imagine demanding rented accommodation be “fit for human habitation”. The barefaced cheek, the sheer sense of entitlement…
Of course, this kind of thing is “not political”, apparently.
He has already ladybirded this to you. You didn’t give a fuck when the regs were ignored at Apollo House as it suited your agenda. You have no idea how fit that was for use as residential units. It may not have flammable cladding exactly per this tragedy but there could have been any number of issues that caused a similar incident. The point is you didn’t know or care, you were delighted with the activists.
Safety regs were ignored here, resulting in an awful tragedy and you’re using this to shite on about the right wing. Your hypocrisy and simple one track agenda is crystal clear. Let’s see you find nuance in this.
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In fairness Ambrose, this is a political issue, it’s a direct result of planning laws made by politicians. The people affected (at least the ones who survived) certainly seem to be making it a political issue.
The Guardian summed it up well earlier, this is May’s Hurricane Katrina.
@sidney is placing the blame for this on ‘the right’, while the building is still smouldering and bodies still unrecovered. Building control, safety standards and fire control in his opinion have been compromised, again by the right, to bring about this disaster before any investigation has been carried out. Do you think that amounts to political point scoring?
Do politicians have a direct hand in categorising building materials or is it a standards authority? I’d imagine the latter.
Who would trust more?
i) A group of committed volunteers who made sure a building was safe for a homeless protest because they are genuinely committed to helping people?
or
ii) A Tory controlled council and a Tory controlled government, neither of whom give a shit about about the safety of council tenants because they’re in hock to vested interests?
And I’m not absolving the previous Labour government either.
Your choice.
Again, the likes of you would charge rent to homeless people for sleeping on the street if you could. Pass the sick bag, please, while you use them to defend the exact type of politics which has led to possibly 150 unnecessary deaths.
These rent-paying people who died are the exact same people the likes of you consistently vilify for looking for “free everything”.
Were they qualified to make that assessment? The fact that they were committed was enough I suppose.
Again, the classic weasel response of an offended right-winger when they see the catastrophic results of their brand of politics.
The Tories have never given a shit about people like the Grenfell Tower victims. They don’t vote Tory.
Explain, you keep avoiding this. What did the Tories do to change building regulations since 2010?