Just to come back to this. It’s perhaps the most stupid point made on this thread and a demonstration of how the poisonous rhetoric of Thatcher and the right-wing media have penetrated public discourse to a tragic level.
Nobody, apparently, should care about anything that doesn’t personally affect them.
Tory cuts don’t impact rich people.
So clearly you think a rich person has no right to vote against the Tories. I mean, why would they vote Labour? Labour want to tax them more. That would be mental.
Why would anybody who doesn’t live in a tower block care about whether tower blocks have sprinkler systems or have flammable cladding and broken fire alarms?
I don’t live in a tower block, and I doubt many here do, so why should anybody care? Carry on as before, please.
You could follow this logic to the nth degree, and many people do.
That’s a recipe for the collapse of societies, where nobody gives a flying fuck about anybody except themselves.
I don’t think they really believe you shouldn’t hold a Your well reasoned views. It’s just the poverty of their own arguments lead them to playing the man and not the ball.
No point in doing it too soon as any new leader would be contaminated by the toxic atmosphere. But it will be within three months at the most you’d think. A bigger question than when is who?
Pretty much all their options are more toxic than May, if that were possible.
May is actually a less immediately dislikeable figure than all their options bar David Davis and maybe Philip Hammond.
But the problem is Davis, much as he might seem an alright bloke to have a pint with, is more suited to pub level discussion than actual politics. He’d be out of his depth.
Hammond is even weaker than May and isn’t a serious option.
Rudd is more dislikeable than May.
Johnson is more dislikeable and more incompetent than May and would be more toxic than Trump.
The Tories are snookered whichever way they turn.
What has happened over the last month is a fundamental, game changing moment in British politics.
And another fundamental, game changing moment has occurred this week.
Any chance you might come up with a defence of the Tories and the no regulation culture that caused the Grenfell Tower disaster?
You’ve had three and a half days now. As have all the other Irish Tories on this thread. Nada so far from any of you.
Or are you content to just keep bizarrely moaning about me agreeing with a temporary homeless protest that you didn’t like because it took homeless people off the well-regulated streets that they were so safely sleeping in?
There isn’t a case to be made. No one on here has tried to justify what happened in London this week. It’s sad that you feel the need to score your childish political points over the bodies of eighty people.
I’m the one apportioning the blame where it should rightly be laid.
It’s the people who are trying to squirm away from apportioning that blame and finding any excuse to try and steer debate away from who is to blame who are trying to score points.
“Don’t politicise it”, we were told, remember?
Sure, because this is entirely non-political, it was just an accident nobody could have foreseen.