Uk affairs, The Double Lizzie Crisis (Part 1)

Defending state terrorism, now.

Tut tut.

What was it you said about being stupid again?

Even Thatcher condemned the attack on civilians. You’re further to the right than Thatcher. Have a think about that, you imperialist, colonial shit for brains.

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You’ve jumped the shark on this one Sid.
Israel as a sovereign state, like any state, has the right to defend itself. In a war they have the right to fight said war. Thatcher is full of shit, she wasn’t very restrained in putting the boot in against the Argies.

You keep deflecting to Trump, the US and now even Ireland in your efforts to avoid the central issue here for Corbyn. Corbyn has been caught with his pants down honoring Palestinian terrorists. Nobody should be surprised as throughout his lifetime he has supported many ME terrorist groups intend on murdering all remaining Jews on the planet. Surprisingly the great majority of British Jews are upset at this.

He is toast.

Zzzzzz.

Yasser Arafat was part of the Black September, he founded the fucking thing.

Presumably Bill Clinton was honouring the Munich massacre when he shared a platform with him in front of the world.

Or something.

We get it.

You see no problem with terrorism, as long as its done by states, even states which are in breach of international law and illegally occupy territory which doesn’t belong to them.

Might is always right with the likes of you.

You’d have been defending Bloody Sunday were you around in 1972, because you’re defending the exact same sort of thing here.

As I said you’ve jumped the shark.
No point talking to you further, go for a lie down.

Buzzwords and buzzphrases don’t amount to an argument, mate. They’re the tool of the shit debater who knows they’re beaten.

:-0 :exploding_head:

Imagine the reaction if, in a parallel universe, Corbyn had uttered these views.

It gets and more and more bizarre. Israel is actually led by a man ignorant of the Holocaust.

Good article by Owen Jones which makes some of the same points I’ve made on this thread.

It’ll of course be far too rational for screaming mentalist arch-hypocrites like @Tim_Riggins and @anon7035031 , though.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/14/corbyn-wreath-terror-victims-memorial-israel-palestinian

Another misleading lying cunt, so unsurprising you gain satisfaction from it. It’s called confirmation bias mate.

The facts of this story are that Corbyn since 2014 has claimed he was at a memorial to the 47 PLO officials killed by an airstrike in 1985. After the photo was recently unearthed showing him holding a wreath at the grave of the mastermind of the Munich attack, Atef Bseiso, he did a swift about turn and stated he was there but not involved, whatever the fuck that means, as it means nothing to a rational thinker.

Conflating it with recognizing Arafat is more horseshit that again only a let wing nutter could come up with. Arafat led the PLO away from violence in 1993 and should be recognized for such, not his terrorist activities. Conflating laying a wreath for Arafat and a wreath for Bseiso would be like Leo Varadkar laying a wreath for Martin McGuinness and laying a wreath for the dead perpetrator of the Omagh bombing.

A clue for you, seeing as you appear to be a very slow learner.

Why did Corbyn attend on the anniversary of the Israeli massacre (which you said was legitimate, remember? Even though the UN Security Council voted 14-0 to condemn).

Because commemorating the victims of Israeli state terror is exactly what he was there to do.

Meanwhile Boris Johnson is vilifying Muslims, and there’s not a peep out of you. Of course there wouldn’t be - you’ve been spewing the same racist shite for years.

Your position is hilarious. You see no problem with meeting Arafat, yet are all screaming Mary over the fictional commemoration of senior PLO members who were actually involved in Arafat’s turn towards dialogue in the early 90s!

And again, you are an arch-hypocrite. You see no problem with calling Nazis “very fine people” and obviously anti-semitic dog-whistling by Trump. You see no problem with constantly spewing your racist rhetoric against Muslims. You admit outright support Israeli state terror and mass murder. You have nothing except deliberate mendacious conflation of criticism of Israel with anti-semitism.

You’re as bankrupt intellectually as he was monetarily after running his casinos into the ground.

When should Netanyahu resign for openly commemorating terrorism, by the way? Because that’s what he does.

The reality is that the UK public is well used to these smear attacks on Corbyn and takes no notice, because they know they’ve proved to be lies time and time and time again, as they are here.

And Labour leads the polls again.

What is it about fools making the same mistake over and over over again?

John Stuart Mill got it spot on, when he said that not conservatives are stupid people, but most stupid people are conservative.

You are a prize example. A loudmouth chicken shit brainwashed clownshoe of a man.

I wouldn’t call these smear campaigns “mistakes” by the way. They’re far too sinister and serious. They’re all out attacks on democracy and free speech.

Oh yeah, free speech, another fucking hypocrisy on your part. You and your ilk have never cared one iota about free speech, only about shutting it down.

That’s another reason you hate Corbyn - he tells truths that shameless apologists for imperialism, colonialism and terror like you hate. Anybody who tells such truths, you try and shut them down, because you don’t have the intellectual capacity to engage with them.

Utterly damning

You are morally bankrupt mate, so save the lecturing on such matters for someone who might be impressed by your rants. Your idea of morals is calling for females you don’t like to be raped, writing shit “satire” fantasizing about having sex with recent widows, and stalking unaware females across continents.

The bombing in Tunis was absolutely legitimate as Israel was at war with the PLO at the time, one of many wars between Israel and Arab states or groups since 1948, and the air raid was specifically in response to increased terrorist attacks on Israel. You seem to be arguing that Israel should not fight in such wars, most of which were started by their neighbors attacking them. The question is whether the war was morally justified or not, and regardless of whether you or any other leftie nutcase like it or not, Israel has the right to defend itself and it’s people from attack.

Let’s look at the alternatives. We have one small country that is democratic and largely western in it’s culture who wish to be left alone. On the other side we have a succession of Arab countries who have attacked Israel and wish for it to be destroyed and all Jews killed. All of these Arab countries have one goal, to establish a Muslim majority state ruled by Sharia law, complete with all the barbarism that comes along with that. Hamas and Hezbollah, who Corbyn and you support, are absolute tyrannical fascists, as bad as the Taliban ever were.

This is the side you are on, you actually want to see all Jews killed and Israel replaced by another Muslim majority state where women are treated as animals (fits with your personality), religion is imposed, and secular ideas are driven back to the 7th century.

There is a simple solution to the Israeli Palestinian decades long crisis. Just as the west supported the development of the state of Israel after 1948, the Arab states should have done the same for the Palestinians. The cunts are awash in money and have ample land to build a Palestinian state on, the state of Israel was mostly a desert before being developed. Instead they drove Palestinians out of every country that they tried to settle in. The Arab states had zero interest in helping Palestinians, rather they use them as pawns due to their pathological hatred for Jews.

I don’t hate Corbyn, I just think he’s an useless idiot like yourself.

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Given the depths and lies you sink to in your opening paragraph there I didn’t bother reading on (actually I lie, I sort of skimmed through the other paragraphs and I see you’re away defending mass murder again, but sure what’s new).

The only thing I’ll say to is to see a very good psychiatrist, because you’re one utterly pathetic case.

You’re not even a man.

Mass murder is an unfortunate aspect of war. Wars are either morally justified or not. Establishing democracy and a fair and just society is worth fighting wars for, as is protecting them once established. Wars to establish Muslim majority states with Sharia law as the law of the land are not morally justified, in fact opposing such efforts is what’s morally justified.

You seem to have a burning desire to live under Sharia law, which is odd given your hatred for Christianity, a pretty benign religion these days. Perhaps you are a closet Islamist?

Zzzzz.

More racism and shameless defence of mass murder from you.

You would have fitted in very well in the Parachute Regiment in Derry in January 1972 with such an attitude.

Remember that’s Sidney has described Corbyn being called out for his historic links to terrorists and anti semites as a Zionist conspiracy. This is what you are dealing with, he is just waiting for whatever Momentum supporters he follows on Twitter to say before coming back here to parrot it.

“He’s won the Nobel Peace Prize”

:smiley::smiley:

In fairness ,the queen has laid a wreath at a terrorist memorial

I’ve never used the phrase “Zionist conspiracy” on this forum, mate.

I’m not sure why you’re doing so here.

Actually, I am. It’s because, as well as being a self-admitted warmongering cunt, having supported the Iraq War, you’re an obvious anti-semite.

I just call the smears against Corbyn what they are - lies.

Which you have always specialised in on this forum.

By definition people with batshit crazy extremist views like you and @anon7035031 have to.