Uk affairs, The Double Lizzie Crisis (Part 1)

This sidney guy is more than a bit simple :roll_eyes:

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The famine was caused by capitalism. The food grown in Ireland was denied from the starving because they couldn’t pay for it and because others could. That’s capitalism 101. Nothing was to be let get in the way of the quasi-religious ideology of the market.

There is no such a thing as modern capitalism. Capitalist ideology is what it is. The free market, unfettered, and to hell with regulations.

And your brand of it is a literally murderous ideology which unfortunately isn’t just confined to the naive “libertarian” students I’ve come across over the years, but it is still widespread among easily-brainwashed simpletons like yourself and widespread in industry. That’s why effective regulation is required in every single industry one can think of.

Em, no it hasn’t, mate. The type of politics I subscribe to has brought the world its greatest ever period of peace and prosperity.

The type of politics you subscribe to drives wealth inequality to insane levels and makes the lives of ordinary people the world over utter hell.

You are a binary who sees everything in black and white. That is clear from your posts and the consistent tone of deranged anger in them, with all the emotional maturity of a 4chan user.

I am not a binary. I have the ability to think for myself, and I can think a lot, lot better than you, thanks.

What is black and white, ie. the utter tosh of you and your anarcho-capitalist nonsense, I see in black and white. I see what happened at Grenfell Tower as black and white because it quite obviously is, despite the best efforts of you and others to muddy the waters as much as possible to protect your failed political ideology from any criticism.

I see most most other things in shades of grey, because that’s how the world generally is.

You have an inability to think in anything other than black and white.

Which is why you’re such a nut.

i) I know more about UK building regulations than you. I’ve already had to correct your misinformation on such.
ii) Ideology did cause it. That’s already been answered. Next.
iii) Yawn. I’ll bet you anything what I do is more valuable than what you do. Whatever “work” you do, its clear you do fuck all of it because you’re on here the whole time. You come across as a terribly unhappy person. Which I am not.

Yet again you use this cliched tosh.

That’s called desperation.

Zzzzzzzz.

Read up about Benjamin Disraeli and Victorian politics towards Ireland and educate yourself.

Your poor understanding of history is quite apparent.

Kensington Council.

Utter cunts.

Well done on googling Mr. D’Israeli, mate.

I’ve been well acquainted with Victorian politics and how it related to Ireland for many years, having got an A1 in higher level History in the Leaving Cert and having been a keen student of history ever since.

I’m sure @anon7035031 is too, what with the landlord class in this country in the 1880s presumably being a key influence on his politics.

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I doubt it bud

Why?

If he’d been around then they’re exactly the type of people he would have defended to the hilt.

Michael Davitt was the exact type of person he would have vilified.

I doubt it bud

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Why?

II don’t think I have ever read so much stupid in a single post in a long time. So much so I will not be wasting any more of my valuable time engaging with your lunacy on this topic.

You are a socialist, bordering on a communist. Peace and prosperity? I suspect the 100 million who were murdered and starved to death since the Russian revolution under regimes you would have supported would disagree. You’re clearly a Trotskyite nutcase, living in a fantasy land of the coming socialist utopia.

Not that it matters, but I am a very content and happy person, or at least as happy as anyone can be while dealing with the assorted challenges that life throws at one. I have a wonderful wife and great kids, who give me enormous joy. You on the hand sound like a vindictive individual with a huge chip on your shoulder, your constant personal attacks on any poster who disagrees with you is evidence of that.

Landlords :joy:
Both parents grew up on small farms. I also have family members on both my side and my wife’s side who fought for Irish independence, so a big fuck you on that front as well.

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ì’m a good read of character pal

When one has irrational belief in the infallibility of something, one will call anything that threatens that belief stupid. That’s your modus operandi. Oh well.

You say I’m a communist. Whatever. You just keep proving me right with your binary fantasies.

Good for you. You sure don’t come across like that’s the case, however.

Skim read back over both your posting history and the last 200 odd posts on this thread to see who receives more personal attacks.

i) In direct exchanges between us, it’s not you.
ii) On this thread, it’s also not you.

So? So do I.

What’s your point?

Your politics strongly suggests that had you been around at the time you would have worked directly against their interests in that regard, as well as against those who fought against greedy landlords during the Land Wars.

Is @Sidney actually crowing about getting an A1 in Leaving Cert history on here?

:joy:

And I never went to the Institute or got grinds. :thumbsup:

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You absolute sap, do you crow about what degree you did as well to mask your measly life achievements since university too?

Do you ever not resort to pathetic personal attacks to mask your measly inability to debate about anything?

No, you don’t!

And you tell us you work in the courts?

Deary me.

Christ, you’re shit at this.

What do I work as? Does something irk you because you always mention courts to me?

I’ve summed you up above. You haven’t rebutted any point on your hysterical attacks on some health and safety rules and derogatory comments on others doing the same. I’ve yet to defend or scream at anyone over this fire. I can understand people who live beside it or are involved being naturally angry. I can understand people wanted answers over the reckless loss of life quickly.

What I can’t understand is some loser on the west coast of Ireland coming in copying and pasting some partisan attacks from the UK political scene to score points. When we do see the report on this I’ll prepared to criticize anyone responsible. Grow up and stop going on about your leaving cert history research project.

I don’t know, perhaps you could tell us? I certainly hope it’s nothing where debating a point would be necessary, because you haven’t a clue in that regard.

On the contrary, my friend, on the contrary.

Your sum contributions to this debate have been to moan about a homeless protest I supported and something about pitch invasions.

You’ve tried to obfuscate furiously on behalf of your beloved Tories without once being able to make any sort of substantial point in their defence.

I’ve been the one making the actual substantive points here while you, for the 14,474th time on the forum, try to derail the debate with your pathetic excuses and obfuscations about how people shouldn’t “politicise” a highly political issue - the most political real life news event of this year or any year in the UK.

There are a lot of things you can’t understand, Dimmy.

Basic things like human empathy, having an inquisitive mind and the concept that people might be interested in things other than those which directly affect them immediately spring to mind.

Although, come to think of it, I can’t really understand why somebody would be so obsessed with having desperate , long drawn out debates about television ratings for their favourite sport in numerous failed attempts to try and prove it’s more popular than other, more popular sports.

That, yes, I would call the actions of a loser.

Damning.

The Tories didn’t give a shit.