My substantive points are based on facts.
Your bullshit points are based on obsessive dogma.
We already know more than enough facts to make a substantive judgement on the culture of neglect and no regUlation that is responsible.
You take the typical Tory way out. Everybody should shut up and stay quiet until the results of the inquiry, which are, presumably, many months or even years away. The survivors should shut up, local people should shut up, anybody who thinks what happened is a fucking scandal on a monstrous scale, should shut up.
Demonise any protestors, while you're at it.
And you tell us the Tory narrative should be the one that is listened to.
No thanks, mate. That's exactly what happened after Hillsborough when Tory lies and smears attempted to assassinate the character of the dead, those present, and a whole city, and attempted to pervert the course of justice. They very nearly succeeded. That's exactly what you want to happen again.
Philip Hammond this morning said that "sprinkler systems may not be the best way of protecting a building against fire."
It is frankly flabbergasting that a government minister needs "technical experts" to tell him that water protects against fire.
The Fire Brigades Union could have told him right there and right then - Andrew Marr did - the number of people that have died as a result of fires in buildings with sprinkler systems in the UK is...0. Zero.
Hammond then lied about how he voted on the 2016 amendment Labour tabled about making rented accommodation fit for human habitation. He claimed he didn't vote. Marr was able to tell him right there and then that he did and he voted against it.
Blatant lying by Hammond.
Hammond also suggested that the cladding was illegal. That's not what has been reported.
But even if that were so, there are two possibilities here. i) Illegal cladding was used and caught fire or ii) Legal cladding was used and caught fire.
Either possibility is utterly damning for the "regulations" and the culture of no regulation. Either the regulations were entirely inadequate, or the regulations are so poorly enforced as to mean absolutely nothing.
You then proceed to engage once again in victim blaming. You know full well that the residents of the tower had kicked up stink over the dangers.
You know full well that Tory ministers sat on coroner's recommendations that they've had for four years and did the square root of fuck all about them. And they stonewalled fire safety chiefs who wanted to meet them.
You've clearly been listening to Nick Paget-Brown, the Tory leader of Kensington Council, far too much. The "people like you factor", no doubt.
You'd do well to actually read up on news reports before commenting.
You'd also do well to listen to the stories of some of the people on the ground who are actually affected rather staying in your safe little cocoon of officially approved Tory thought.