US Politics - A Society in Meltdown

Logging the spamming of a spamming president is not spamming.

A poster who spams a thread because they don’t like a poster logging the spamming of a spamming president because they quite obviously agree with the spamming presidents spamming worldview is a spammer.

So, in short, go and fuck yourself.

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I guess the good ole redneck nascar won’t have any protests

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They’ll be kneeling down on the necks of liberals in response

Dale Earnhardt Jr voiced his support for the protesters today.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2017/09/25/dale-earnhardt-jr-quotes-jfk-says-americans-have-right-peaceful-protests/699171001/

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Has trump alienated most of middle America by now?

Slowly but surely getting there.

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Think his base would be pretty happy about him attacking black athletes.

I would say most of middle America would agree with the criticism of athletes protesting during the anthem, but strongly disagree with the language used by Trump. What progressive liberals don’t understand or don’t want to understand is this is not a free speech issue. You right to “free speech” or “freedom of expression” is not protected in the workplace, period. In the workplace you follow the rules set by the company you work for. For example if you go work for MacDonalds they provide you with a uniform, and a code of conduct they expect you to fulfill. So, if you happen to think all women are cunts, and call every woman you see in MacDonalds a cunt, you will be fired. That’s an extreme example, but that’s the principle at issue here.

This could all have been nipped in the bud last year if the spineless cunt Goodell had a pair of balls. The NBA has a simple rule, players are to stand respectfully during the playing of the national anthem, the NFL has no such rule. If Kaepernick wanted to stage a protest, then he could do in his own own time and not on company time and on company property. Goodell should have revised the NFL rules and informed all NFL team management that if players wanted to make a political statement or protest, do it on their own time outside the sport. Sport and politics don’t mix.

Nonsense. The great majority of Americans are very proud of their athletes, regardless of race and regardless of political affinity. Do you really think most Americans don’t admire Lebron James or Steph Curry?

The bottom line is the US right is all about “free speech” until black people exercise it.

Now we have a poster comparing protesting during the anthem to a fictional McDonalds employee calling every woman who enters a restaurant “cunts”.

This is the level of argument from Trump’s defenders.

What utter bollocks.

I believe you’ve been posting a lot about hurling recently.

That’s hurling, administered by the GAA, an inherently political organisation for its entire history.

Go figure.

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I wouldn’t expect you to understand the concept of workplace rules. All individuals in the US are free to express their opinion outside the workplace, in the workplace the company they work for sets the rules. The same rules should apply to everyone, regardless of race, religion, etc. As I said it’s not an issue in the NBA where the rule is clear.

The GAA is an amateur organization, players are not employed by their club or county.

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The GAA is a sporting organisation which is also an inherently political organisation. The fact that it is amateur is irrelevant to whether it is political or not.

The rest of your post is merely a self-serving justification for the sort of crap the likes of IOC president Avery Brundage came out with when Tommie Smith and John Carlos did the Black Power salute in Mexico in 1968 and the sort of nonsense James McClean has to put up with when he refuses to wear to the poppy.

Sport and politics have always mixed.

More false equivalence from you, but as I said unsurprising given you have zero understanding of workplace rules. Amateur athletes are under no legal obligation to follow rules, as they are not employed. My point is the NFL should have a clear rule on respecting the anthem, just like the NBA has.

Is there an PL/FA rule that one must wear a poppy? Must have missed it.

As usual you are being hysterical about something you know nothing about.

Given that you’re complaining about a protest because you don’t like that black people are making it, and trying to come up with any pathetic defence of a hysterical moron who wants all those making it sacked, it’s fairly obvious who is the hysterical one.

I’ll helpfully make it obvious. It’s you.

You’re still not getting that sport and politics mix and always have. Saying “sport and politics shouldn’t mix” is one of those cliches that are so vacuous you’d expect a Miss World contestant to come out with it.

The hilarious thing is you state there’s no rule against a protest and then actually still complain about it. The exact same thing you see in the comment sections of the Daily Mail about McClean. The NBA doesn’t start for another month. Players will have no problem protesting in the same way if Trump keeps this idiocy up and more power to them when they do.

Enjoy following your beloved Golden State Warriors, who are, to use your own phraseology, all “liberal morons”. That’s if they’re not all sacked, which presumably you’ll be calling for if they protest.

Go fuck yourself, to use your own rhetoric. Where did I defend Trump? Trump is an idiot and has further inflamed an issue that needed no further oil poured on the fire. The question posed was whether middle America would be alienated, and the answer is most Americans were and are opposed to the “Kaepernick” protest, and it has nothing to do with race. The vast majority of black players and players of all color respect the playing of the national anthem, and only a small handful supported Kaepernick’s stance. The issue has now been taken over by the screaming Marys so all rational logic has flown out the window.

Professional sports are a workplace. Why should a multi millionaire sportsperson be treated any different to any other employee in any other field of work? My employer wouldn’t allow employees conduct divisive political protest while at work, and why should they?

Anyway, to repeat, go fuck yourself, I have football to watch.

I see Trump and Labane aren’t big fans of freedom of expression and the right to protest.

Imagine putting your livelihood and everything you’ve worked for since you were young at stake because your people are routinely murdered by the state’s police force and getting called a son of bitch because of it?

I personally couldn’t give a shit if all of them sat down or stood on their heads in protest. I wasn’t born here so don’t share the patriotism most Americans display.

They have a right to their patriotism through given they freed Europe from fascism and Asia from the savagery of imperial Japan.

Shocking that someone living in fucking Singapore of all places doesn’t understand freedom of expression as it pertains to the workplace. Tell you what, go into work tomorrow and stage a protest against the government and see how you get on. You won’t because you’re a fat cunt full of hot air.

Kaepernick, who started all this, was raised by his white mother after his black father left shortly after his birth. He grew up and went to school in a predominantly Hispanic community in CA. @ChocolateMice would have more in common with the black community than he had.

And he doesn’t have a livelihood become he is a shit QB who cost the niners one if not two Superbowls.