US Politics - A Society in Meltdown

Do you think Trump is actually going to go to jail, mate? You’re setting yourself for another disappointment and one more epic meltdown. Don’t do it to yourself.

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From the Guardian:-

Cohen has information on a Russian conspiracy, says lawyer

Michael Cohen’s lawyer Lanny Davis has come out all guns blazing on a tour of the broadcast studios in the US today. He has reiterated the guilt of the president regarding the hush money paid to two women, and stressed his client possesses information about Russian interference that would be of interest to investigators.

He told MSNBC and Cohen knows information that would be of interest to special counsel Robert Mueller about a Russian conspiracy to “corrupt American democracy” and “a failure to report that knowledge to the FBI.”

In an interview on MSNBC, Davis says: “There is no dispute that Donald Trump committed a crime”

“The president of the United States directed him to commit a crime meaning the president committed the crime and covered it up because he didn’t sign the cheque to keep quiet the affairs with the two women,” Davis says, explaining what Cohen told the court under oath yesterday.

Cohen and his legal team are angling for a plea deal that would see any potential sentence reduced in exchange for information, and have released various files to corroborate their claims.

In an interview with NPR, Davis said: “Mr Cohen would never accept a pardon from a man that he considers to be both corrupt and a dangerous person in the Oval Office.”

Emphasising that not only is Cohen not hoping for a pardon from Donald Trump, which would exonerate him of any future charges, Davis said he would not accept one either.

He told the Today Show that Cohen has turned his life around “from what he did for Donald Trump, much of which he now regrets”.

Trump’s real estate company authorised paying $420,000 to lawyer Michael Cohen in his effort to silence women during the presidential campaign and then relied on “sham” invoices from Cohen that concealed the nature of the payments, the Washington Post reported, according to legal filings released Tuesday.

Trump will get out of this, his supporters will stand by him, but it is really nuts to think that everyone in America knows their President cheats on the first lady with hookers and no-one there gives a fuck anymore.

I’m interested in a short summary of this, I thought Trump was caught on tape discussing paying a woman off years ago?

Its all fake news like the hookers orgasm

It’s simply amazing how naive and uninformed the lefties are. The DOJ has already ruled twice that a sitting president cannot be criminally indicted while in office. It would need some serious criminal activity while in office to reverse that opinion.

The most the Democrats can hope for is to win the house and senate in November and try and impeach Trump (as was proven with Clinton you need both chambers to successfully impeach). Given the shambles the Democrats are in, winning both branches of government looks very unlikely. The economy is purring along, jobs are plentiful, so the message of no borders, no prisons, no profits is unlikely to resonate with voters.

Whatever happened to Russian collusion? Like the Starr probe into Clinton, we seem to have settled on sex scandals which nobody gives a flying duck about.

Defend, defend, defend!

The Duncan Castles defence. :laughing:

If campaign funding violations is all they have, there is some serious precedent there for slaps on the wrist. The Obama campaign paid the biggest fine in US history for campaign finance violations totaling $2M.

If you have evidence of criminal wrongdoing by Trump while in office then you need to provide it to the DOJ. There is zero chance of a criminal prosecution regarding activity before taking office, let alone a charge being brought based on a plea bargain by Cohen for campaign finance violations.

Instructive how you had to come back for a second go, there. One illiterate shill post wasn’t enough.

You can nearly see the froth on the screen.

@anon7035031 has dreamt of a corrupt, incompetent, racist clownshoe of a US president like Trump all his life. He’s everything @anon7035031 ever aspired to be.

On top of the humiliating hurling final defeat, the devastation for him that it’s all come crashing down like anybody with more than one functiong brain cell knew it would (hint: not @anon7035031) is soooooo funny.

“Go team!!!”

GOOOOOOO TRUMP!!!

YYYYYYEEEEEEAAAAHHHHH!!!

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You truly are an unimaginative dullard. Little wonder that boring horseshit you tried to pass off as journalism never got published. It might get two (2) likes on TFK though.

Wow, the stakes have been well and truly raised, you are the king of the heavyweight barb, mate.

Exceptional stuff.

:sweat_smile::sweat_smile::sweat_smile::sweat_smile:

Here’s Trump’s response in full to a question about hush payments during the Fox & Friends interview.

Fox & Friends co-host Ainsley Earhardt: “Did you know about the payments?”

Trump: “Later on I knew. Later on. But you have to understand, Ainsley, what he did – and they weren’t taken out of campaign finance, that’s the big thing. That’s a much bigger thing. Did they come out of the campaign? They didn’t come out of the campaign, they came from me. And I tweeted about it. You know, I put – I don’t know if you know but I tweeted about the payments. But they didn’t come out of campaign. In fact, my first question when I heard about it was did they come out of the campaign because that could be a little dicey. And they didn’t come out of the campaign and that’s big. But they weren’t – that’s not a – it’s not even a campaign violation. If you look at President Obama, he had a massive campaign violation but he had a different attorney general and they viewed it a lot differently.”

Trump was also asked whether he believes the press is the “enemy of the people” as he has said.

Trump: “No, not at all but the fake news is and the fake news is comprised of – it’s a lot – it’s a big chunk, OK? Somebody said what’s the chunk. I said 80%. It’s a lot. It’s a lot. If I do something well, it’s not reported. Other than in the 20%. I mean, The New York Times cannot write a good story about me. They’re crazed. They’re like lunatics.”

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It’s like they send out a play book to lads to defend Trump. Today the deflection is Obama campaign finance violations

Are you joining the delusional camp?*
There is zero chance of a criminal charge against him.
*In your defense you are probably pickled.

They’ll string out these court cases for months going up through the levels as far as they can go.You don’t start at the top,have you never seen Law and Order?

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He and his mob get a cease and desist letter from Steve Tylers lawyers.
Ignores (is that unusual for a man who’s main piece of advice is to everybody on any legal matter seems to be ‘sue’?)
Here’s the follow up.


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You’re replying to a poster who thinks Trump is Batman and who thinks the following is how crime syndicates actually operate:

Love that episode. So do you think he’ll end up in prison, mate?

If US justice is worth anything, he undoubtedly will, as will many others.

He deserves to die there too, but hopefully that won’t be any time soon.