US Politics - A Society in Meltdown

How did ickle Jared Kushner get a high security clearance when he lied on the application form? He went to a meeting with a bunch of Russians, based on an email he didn’t read, didn’t know who was at the meeting, didn’t know what it was about and didn’t find very interesting. Incidentally, is he 12?
666 Fifth Avenue may well be the real motivation behind all of this and could well lead to his downfall and hopefully imprisonment.

I have some extra tinfoil, sound like you need some.

Anyone with a brain can see what went on here, the DNC set up Trump’s campaign. The entire Russian story was staged. All the meetings were set up by DNC operatives. It will all come out in time, be patient. The DNC will be exposed as the most corrupt in US history.

So @ProjectX is writing for you now?

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Do your research pal and stop reading the shit you are fed. The DNC played the dirty game and lost. They are still losing the same fight unfortunately.

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Is it a Wexican going to be dense?

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When did that fuck face project x come back?

The Russians invade Afghanistan, the US see an opportunity to weaken the Russians so they arm and train the Taliban to defeat them.
Post 9/11 the US decide that Afghanistan needs to be freed from the Taliban it put in power.
The Russians see an opportunity to weaken the US without getting involved so they arm the Taliban.

Meanwhile the people of Afghanistan are slaughtered for the bones of 40 years without any end in sight. A dirt poor country with no ability to ever lay a glove on the US, sacrificed for American strategic interests. Hardly a coincidence that Iraq & Afghanistan flank favourite US/Israel/Saudi enemy Iran.

I suppose these claims should be taken with a pinch of salt too considering the current climate in the US etc. and the move to increase Russian sanctions that are ongoing.

What a world we live in.

Stay off the sherry, you utter simpleton.

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Now that’s tinfoil for you.

@anon7035031 and the Trumpbots sound terribly like doped athletes trying to make excuses for a positive test.

We know now for sure that the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russian government and saw no problem with such collusion.

We know that several key Trump campaign staff members have lied time and time again about their meetings with Russian government representatives.

They’ve perjured themselves and lied on their security clearance forms.

You don’t do that if you have nothing to hide.

We know that it’s not tenable that Trump himself was unaware of these contacts given what he said in a speech on the day the meeting Uday Trump, Kushner and Manafort had with the Russians in Trump Tower in June 2016.

We know it’s not tenable that Kushner didn’t know exactly what that meeting was about, given Uday Trump e-mailed him the details with the title “Re: Russia - Clinton - private and confidential”.

We know that Trump is obsessed with shutting down the special counsel investigation by any means possible.

We know that Trump is looking at pardoning himself, family members and other associates of his.

We know that doing so is effectively an admission of guilt.

It’s now obvious that the US president is being held over a barrel by the Russians and is effectively a Russian agent.

It’s utterly mad, but there is no other conclusion to come to from an impartial and reasoned reading of the facts.

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I see there’s widespread speculation that Tillerson may become the latest rat to flee the sinking ship.

He’s supposed to be Secretary of State but has basically been like a mute child since he was appointed.

Amazing how Trump keeps trying to appoint people with links to Russia to key positions. Can’t think why.

Remember Trump’s “outrage” at his son being referenced in a tweet by a Saturday Night Live writer?

Now he’s doing the same thing.

He’s also gone on another Twitter rant at Sessions.

His cabinet are said to be “in revolt” at his treatment of Sessions.

Not so much slowly isolating himself from his allies…

He’s an unhinged lunatic. They’ll have to impeach him eventually and that will be an absolute shit show with lunatics like our e-friend @anon7035031 thinking it’s a conspiracy against him.

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Trump’s speech to the Boy Scouts :smile:

“He sold his company for a tremendous amount of money and he went out and bought a big yacht and he had a very interesting life. I won’t go any more than that because you’re Boy Scouts, I’m not going to tell you what he did — should I tell you? Should I tell you? Oh, you’re Boy Scouts, but you know life, you know life.”

He continued: “What happened is he bought back his company and he bought back a lot of empty land…and in the end he failed and he failed badly. He lost all of his money, he went personally bankrupt, and he was now much older. And I saw him at a cocktail party. And it was very sad. Because the hottest people in New York were at this party. It was the party of Steve Ross. Steve Ross, he was one of the great people. He came and…”

It was very Nuremberg.

One of our drenched friends on Newsnight last night said that the Republicans in congress will desert Trump no later than September. He’s a Republican former adviser to George W. Bush.

I admire his optimism but I think it might take a lot longer than that, if it happens at all.

Nothing is off the table with Trump. Hard to know how it all plays out because of that. But the current pattern is likely to continue until the mid-terms at least.

The Democrats are increasing worried about their left flank, as criticism of the leadership grows louder and louder. But the Russia affair has given them decent cover and they have for now escaped the fallout that should have resulted from the most embarrassing defeat in their history.

It’s shocking how much of a shambles the Democrats are at present. Their idea of appealing to the electorate is wheeling out Chuck Schumer to wax lyrical about the plight of the ordinary American, and pining for the country “he grew up in”. This is a cunt who has spent 36 years in congress working tirelessly for his Wall Street donors, and was spotted recently at a party in the Hamptons hobnobbing with Kushner, Ivanka Trump and David Koch.

The Democrats are completely out of touch with their base. If the economy continues to sputter along into 2018, Trump or no Trump, the most likely outcome is a bigger Republican majority. There essentially is no opposition.

Bizarre logic.

A poorly functioning economy is bad for the party in power.

You and other Trump supporters have been complaining about opposition at every turn since January 20th.

Now you say there’s none.

These are directly contradictory viewpoints.

One can infer from this that you haven’t a clue what you’re talking about.