US Presidential Election 2024 - Here comes Agent Orange

[Cheasty]

@glasagusban

If you have a look back at the series of posts there, you’ll see you made a few couple of assertions that were just pure speculation, no reasoning behind them at all. I just said I disagreed with them. Your response was that that was because I lack imagination and foresight. You then asserted that you exposed my lack of a rational basis or reasoning for disagreeing with your speculative assertions for which you offered no rational basis or reasoning.

Up will be down cries sid. I don’t think up will be down I say. You have no basis for disagreeing me so you’ve proved my point says sid.

I’m sure you can see how silly you look.

Jaysus mate you haven’t a breeze.

[glasagusban]

Gud deb8ing m8

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

https://twitter.com/uncle_june/status/1812386731016032445?s=46

[glenshane]

Have we established a motive yet lads…for this nazi nazi assassin?

[Horsebox]

A lot of very reasonable and informed posts here in the last 48 hours.

It’s going to be a very long 4.5 years on TFK.

[maurice_brown]

[Cheasty]

Did you ever ask your oul’ fella what his motive was for becoming a tout?

[glenshane]

If only we had someone on here who thinks like a crazy person and who wants trump dead…we might stand a chance of figuring this out

[Cheasty]

@glenshane

If only we had someone on here who thinks like a crazy person

[Alphakrul1]

How long until someone tries to take a pop at Biden? He could take a bullet to the brain and it mightn’t make any difference to him.

[Cheasty]

The person who is by far the most to blame for the endemic climate of violence and threats of murder in right-wing American politics is Trump.

Now more than ever is the time to up the rhetoric - the facts - against him.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton.html

Donald Trump Suggests ‘Second Amendment People’ Could Act Against Hillary Clinton

[backinatracksuit]

Don’t spoil it

https://twitter.com/JonErlichman/status/1812505505245397481

[Locke]

Judge dismisses the classified documents case against Trump. Some couple of days for the Don.

[Cheasty]

Thread: (FAO of @glasagusban)

https://twitter.com/JYSexton/status/1812857908880650289

It would be a good time for people to readjust their calibrations and maybe start troubling this wrong and delusional belief that “it can’t happen here” or that people who have been telling you for years what was going to happen are “hysterical.”

We aren’t sleepwalking into the abyss. We’re sleep-sprinting.

The privileged class that plays politics as a game is presently rolling out the red carpet to authoritarians and apologizing for any inconveniences as it does.

[Cheasty]

MSNBC pulls its milquetoast shitlib morning show to show deference to the fascist dictator in waiting.

‘Morning Joe’ pulled from air Monday because of Trump shooting | CNN Business

America is surrendering to fascist dictatorship voluntarily.

On Tyranny by Timothy Snyder - Timothy Snyder

1

Do not obey in advance.

Most of the power of authoritarianism is freely given. In times like these, individuals think ahead about what a more repressive government will want, and then offer themselves without being asked. A citizen who adapts in this way is teaching power what it can do.

Anticipatory obedience is a political tragedy. Perhaps rulers did not initially know that citizens were willing to compromise this value or that principle. Perhaps a new regime did not at first have the direct means of influencing citizens one way or another. After the German elections of 1932, which brought Nazis into government, or the Czechoslovak elections of 1946, where communists were victorious, the next crucial step was anticipatory obedience. Because enough people in both cases voluntarily extended their services to the new leaders, Nazis and communists alike realized that they could move quickly toward a full regime change. The first heedless acts of conformity could not then be reversed.

In early 1938, Adolf Hitler, by then securely in power in Germany, was threatening to annex neighboring Austria. After the Austrian chancellor conceded, it was the Austrians’ anticipatory obedience that decided the fate of Austrian Jews. Local Austrian Nazis captured Jews and forced them to scrub the streets to remove symbols of independent Austria. Crucially, people who were not Nazis looked on with interest and amusement. Nazis who had kept lists of Jewish property stole what they could. Crucially, others who were not Nazis joined in the theft. As the political theorist Hannah Arendt remembered, “when German troops invaded the country and Gentile neighbors started riots at Jewish homes, Austrian Jews began to commit suicide.”

The anticipatory obedience of Austrians in March 1938 taught the high Nazi leadership what was possible. It was in Vienna that August that Adolf Eichmann established the Central Office for Jewish Emigration. In November 1938, following the Austrian example of March, German Nazis organized the national pogrom known as Kristallnacht.

In 1941, when Germany invaded the Soviet Union, the SS took the initiative to devise the methods of mass killing without orders to do so. They guessed what their superiors wanted and demonstrated what was possible. It was far more than Hitler had thought.

At the very beginning, anticipatory obedience means adapting instinctively, without reflecting, to a new situation. Do only Germans do such things? The Yale psychologist Stanley Milgram, contemplating Nazi atrocities, wanted to show that there was a particular authoritarian personality that explained why such Germans behaved as they had. He devised an experiment to test the proposition, but failed to get permission to carry it out in Germany. So he undertook it instead in a Yale University building in 1961—­at around the same time that Adolf Eichmann was being tried in Jerusalem for his part in the Nazi Holocaust of the Jews.

Milgram told his subjects (some Yale students, some New Haven residents) that they would be applying an electrical shock to other participants in an experiment about learning. In fact, the people attached to the wires on the other side of a window were in on the scheme with Milgram, and only pretended to be shocked. As the subjects (thought they) shocked the (people they thought were) participants in a learning experiment, they saw a horrible sight. People whom they did not know, and against whom they had no grievance, seemed to be suffering greatly—­pounding the glass and complaining of heart pain. Even so, most subjects followed Milgram’s instructions and continued to apply (what they thought were) ever greater shocks until the victims appeared to die. Even those who did not proceed all the way to the (apparent) killing of their fellow human beings left without inquiring about the health of the other participants.

Milgram grasped that people are remarkably receptive to new rules in a new setting. They are surprisingly willing to harm and kill others in the service of some new purpose if they are so instructed by a new authority. “I found so much obedience,” Milgram remembered, “that I hardly saw the need for taking the experiment to Germany.”

[Cheasty]

Democrats voted to confirm Trump’s joke “Justice” Aileen Cannon, because they’re fucking morons.

Enabling Trump’s destruction of free society is what the Democrats call “going high”. It’s called “bipartisanship”. And they wonder why they lose.

You can’t be “bipartisan” with fucking Nazis.

https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1812872749439746550

[TheUlteriorMotive]

Blue Maga: We need to talk about the cult-like turn of the Democratic party |...

[jellyfish]

JD Vance will be Trump’s VP pick according to a guy who was just on RTE News.

[Special_Olympiakos]

@jellyfish

JD Vance will be Trump’s VP pick according to a guy who was just on RTE News.

The Hillbilly elegy guy

[Cheasty]

@jellyfish

JD Vance will be Trump’s VP pick according to a guy who was just on RTE News.

Vance once compared Trump to Hitler.

Now he’s one of the cultiest of the cultists for him.

The exact same personality defects that enabled World War II are doing their thing again.