Venezuela on the verge of collapse


#361

the left

why was @glasagusban allowed to make a fool of himself that night?


#362

Ah stop Sid. I’ve seen first hand the “success” of communism/socialism in Eastern Europe over a number of years or rather the aftermath. Centrally planned economies producing poor quality goods. Poor living standards, corruption everywhere, even today doctors are still being bribed FFS. Sullen people conditioned not to challenge authority.

The Eastern Europeans were pretty quick to overthrow their communist overlords when there was a bit of momentum. So maybe they knew something that the theoretical marxists in the West didn’t. And pretty quick to embrace the free market instead. It was a pity that the commy appartchiks managed to divvy up the best State assets and sell them to the evil Western capitalists. They didn’t pass on the benefits to the proletariat however but they kept them for themselves.

i’ve also seen the other extreme of post communism and the development of a rampant consumer society with no values. But that’s another story.


#363

Why do you think Tim? I’ll give you a hint, their armies might have something to do with it.

Instead of throwing out infantile nonsense like this, can you answer the question I posed?


#364

Education as we know it is born out of military ideas.

University was and continues to be used to produce people for industry, driven and controlled by big industry. Some of thats good, sone not.

But it all helps a small group own the world.


#365

Attraction to greed and power is human nature kid. We can’t help ourselves.


#366

Kilkenny hurling panel. The power of the collective


#367

Again, and as @balbec has so eloquently put it above, the Soviet Union controlled huge portions of land and resources with their army. They crumbled. Why? Because their centrally planned economy was a shit show. Empires fall when the arse falls out of the economy.

The US and U.K. wouldnt survive without proper functioning economies.


#368

But that is failed socialiam. Communism is a transfer from socialism to somethi g else. Something that is too against Human nature. It failed. But it failed because it was not socialism


#369

You are still not answering my question.


#370

That’s exactly what they did in Venezuala which you were defending above.


#371

You cannot claim that armies are why their economies are advanced. It’s not the reason Ireland’s is either.


#372

Ah Tim, you’re muddying the waters here. This is what I asked you…

Do you think child poverty levels are at an acceptable level in the USA and UK?


#373

Winning the Eurovision gave us confidence in the 90s


#374

it was Fianna Fail’s vision and the Eurovision which put us on the road to success


#375

The Soviets had a big army as well.


#376

Poverty is relative. There aren’t people starving for food.

This is a pathetic example of claiming that capitalism has failed. People are wealthier than ever.


#377

But not every child has an Xbox, Tim. How is that fair?


#378

Gary MacKay stated the whole thing.


#379

A huge amount of child poverty in advanced countries in down to bad parenting .


#380

You seem to have some chip on your shoulder that you didn’t go to university. Universities have been at the centre of almost all big social movements of the last century.