Venezuela

Would you say that?

Yes, yes I would.

You’re right of course. It might only be 4.2 million, or she might be a seamstress in downtown caracas. I suspect she’s not stuck for a few quid though, i also suspect propaganda plays a part here or elsewhere.

Grand so.

Saudi Royals holes are licked raw for banking all the money their country gets from oil and Chavez is a cunt because of it. Maybe if he was King Chavez he could have fleeced the country to his hearts content and had no sanctions

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Whataboutery.

Is there a humanitarian crisis in Saudi, with millions starving and millions more fleeing the country? You’re comparing a somewhat benevolent medieval monarchy with a modern democracy that has been destroyed by socialist yobbos promising wealth for all and only delivering it only for themselves.

There is a reason why socialist (actual socialist not pretend) parties have close to zero support in countries with educated populations, like the US and Ireland. The only countries where left wing parties gain traction are places full of dimwits, like the UK.

I’d say Jamal Khasoggi might disagree with the “benevolent” part of that statement. If he was able to of course.

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Note how @anon7035031 has to try to redefine terms all the time to suit his arguments. :rollseyes:

“somewhat benevolent”, if you follow the rules.

Ah FFS
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Name calling is what he does best. Like a little child … I dont think anyone here has said that Chavez and co are not directly to blame for the fortunes of the country - only that the US has played a part in it…

He’s a very unstable man.

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It’s a distinction that needs making. A pretend socialist is generally a social democrat, I imagine you classify yourself as one. Social democracy has nothing to do with socialism, it is capitalism with social welfare programs. It’s a sensible compromise, even with the danger of creating a welfare state where depending on government assistance becomes more attractive than becoming productive.

Actual socialism is an economy run by the government and taken out of the hands of the private sector, an economy run by idiots like yourself in other words. It sounds wonderful to the naive until you actually see it in action.

You do more name calling than anyone on here (you clown)…

Glad to see you have benefited form the thread though and now say Chavez and co are directly responsible for the fortunes of the country. Stick around, you might learn some more.

All economies are run by the government

Please point us to a credible source for this where its not just spreculation.

They most certainly are not, although all modern capitalist countries have regulation of the economy by government, to a greater or lesser extent. The economy that generates wealth is run by the private sector. Government doesn’t create wealth, it consumes it (or wastes it in many cases).

Who runs the companies that the majority of people in Ireland work for, whether large multinationals or smaller companies?

One guilty pleas already, more to follow.

The government regulates the economy by taxation on the wages and profits of those companies.

The government controls the budget. It also regulates the private sector, ergo controls the economy

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Nothing further to add your honour.

So, you’ve modified terms from “runs” to “controls” which is somewhat true, although I would say tries to control with mixed success. In capitalist countries governments try and control the economy via regulation, taxes, etc., however the majority of the economy is run by the private sector. Unless you are arguing that the Irish government runs Apple, Intel, Microsoft, Google, and everyone creating jobs and revenue in the country, which I don’t think you are. The main role of government in a capitalist economy is to create a business friendly environment for innovation and investment to flourish. In this regard I would say Ireland is doing an overall good job.

The only countries where the government actually runs the economy are Russia, China (although now 80% of jobs are in the private sector), North Korea, Cuba, etc.