It’s very simple.
Nazis and the KKK aren’t involved in Venezuela.
There’s only ever one side at fault in any conflict where Nazis and the KKK are involved.
Therefore it’s eminently sensible to say both sides are to blame for the violence in Venezuela, and only one side to blame for the violence that happened in Charlottesville.
Maduro is a fucking nut. His actions are remarkably similar to Erdogan in Turkey.
What the fuck had that got to do with Corbyn you headcase? 
Using your logic, I’m sure you’ll denounce the Americans and capitalism for causing Salvador Allende’s death and overthrowing his democratically elected government?
You really are a total simpleton Chef.
Corbyn, you stupid stupid cunt, is a huge supporter of the Venezuelan revolution and the utopia it promised. He can’t bring himself to criticize Maduro even at this stage. His view has been and is that all countries should be like Venezuela. How about we pay you Matty the same as those on the dole, how you like that you cunt. NO squeals Matty, I don’t mean that type of socialism.
That’s a fair old tangent to Chile nearly 40 years ago, but I suppose it’s somewhat relevant. Allende was a Marxist and yes got elected but would have taken Chile down the same path as Cuba. Protecting Capitalism as the economic system is something actually worth fighting for, as all the evidence shows that Marxist socialism leads to totalitarianism.
It’s mind-blowing how naïve and thick you are.
You support a military junta that turned a football stadium into an internment and torture camp where 41 people were murdered, because it was all allegedly done in the name of capitalism. But are furious with Jeremy Corbyn because of his measured support of Maduro.
This, coupled with your ambivalence towards the Nazi white nationalist nutters in America, marks you down as quite the oddball.
Measured support of Maduro is hilarious. Over 150 people have died this year in these protests because of his government.
Just like with Castro, it’s one rule for some people, and another for those who believe in the revolution.
Last month Corbyn was photographed with Marcus Papadopoulos, someone who denies the Srebrencia Massacre and all round fruit loop. Corbyn’s team immediately said it was just a photograph and that Jeremy Corbyn does not support those views. Yet the Labour Party under Corbyn have invited Padadopolous to appear at numerous Labour Party events and even videos for the Party.
Imagine Trump did the same. Just different standards for our student union activists on here.
Yes, posing for a photograph is utterly damning.
Have you expressed outrage at prominent Tories’ links to Papadopoulos?
Funny, I don’t remember you doing so.
I also haven’t heard you complaining about Donald Trump’s support for Rodrigo Duterte, whose death squads have killed 10,000 people in the last year.
On Trump, I have criticised him when needs be. Like at the weekend.
Unlike yourself who would never dare criticise Comrade Corbyn.
Is this Tory MP a leader of the party? Have the Tory Party invited him to speak at events?
I don’t remember much criticism of Trump from you. But well done for not agreeing with his apologism for KKK Nazis. It’s deeply reassuring to hear you don’t support associating with KKK Nazis.
What links has Corbyn got to Papadopoulos other than posing for a photograph with him once?
Prominent Tories such as Liam Fox and Norman Tebbitt have given interviews to him.
Did you or anybody else complain when former Tory MP Esther McVey sat on the editorial board of the publication owned by Papadopoulos?
That was the number reported on Channel 4 News yesterday.
And? I’m not defending her friendship with him.
I did criticise Trump. Over the leaked tape last year. And I think his efforts to go on about “both sides” this weekend was stupid and not something a President should do. I generally am not bothered about his Twitter tirades and deflections as they really are in the bubble of US politics, but someone died and it wasn’t the time to be pointing two fingers.
Over 150 people have died in Venezuala and you don’t give a fuck. You, like Trump, are parsing blame about when there is an actual Government acting like this is Venezuala. Just like with Castro, you don’t value the lives that are lost or damaged as long as the cause of socialism is advanced. You’re a hypocrite.
What exactly is an interview? An interview is not supporting somebody. Obama and Clinton have Fox News interviews, that doesn’t mean they support them. The Labour Party have invited this guy to speak at events and he appeared on an official video for them. There’s quite a bit of difference there, but you do know that and are just playing football supporter again here.
Here’s the guardian take on it. A lot less. I’ll be adding Channel 4 to the evergrowing list of fake news sites.
It’s you who is playing the football supporter.
I’ve already given you examples of Tories having links to the same person you’re up in arms about having a photo taken with Corbyn and you’ve just completely brushed over them.
This Papadopoulos chap does appear to have some dodgy views about certain things but beyond a single tweet I can’t find much too evidence of them.
As far as I know he is or was involved with the Labour Friends of Cyprus organisation where I doubt his views on Srebrenica or Assad would be too relevant. Still, I agree somebody with such such views isn’t the best person to be associating with. But lots of people hold all kinds of strange views and one of the big talking points of the right is how people shouldn’t be demonised for holding particular views. Yet that completely flies out the window when it suits them for political purposes.
I couldn’t find any evidence of a video involving Papadopoulos by the way - I’m not saying it doesn’t exist but perhaps you might fill us in a bit more.
But really, as a smear against Corbyn, it’s a piss poor effort, considering that Tories and Liberal Democrats have also had links to Papadopoulos.
If you dig a bit, you’ll find dodgy people in any party and the Tories had and have more than their fair share.
The Labour Friends of Cyprus isn’t noted as a pro-Corbyn hotbed and is more associated with the anti-Corbyn faction of the Labour party, by the way.
In terms of dodgy people, the Trump regime has more than enough, such as Mr. Gorka with his links to Hungarian neo-Nazis, Mr. Bannon with his thinly veiled anti-semitism and support for “white nationalism”, otherwise known as white supremacism, otherwise known as racism (and admiration for Lenin, you might be interested to know), Mr. Pruitt with his climate change denialism, Mr. Sessions the racist, as well as Mr. Trump himself - the KKK Nazi apologist and Le Pen and Duterte supporter.
So, given the importance you appear to place on personal integrity and having the “correct” views on certain subjects, your support for the Trump regime doesn’t make very much sense.
Over the last few months you’ve quietly tried to slither away from the Tories and more towards the Liberal Democrats, which I find interesting. You’re a bit of a unique character as the overlap between people who support the Liberal Democrats and Trump must be very, very small, and certainly when you compare their policy positions it appears to make very little sense how one would support both.
Going back to your football team analogy, it would be like supporting Hibernian and Linfield, or Cliftonville and Sevco.
Where did I say I’m a Lib Dem supporter? If you are actually anti Brexit though, you should have voted for them.
I am against Brexit and dislike the loonies in the Tories and the hard left who are delighted to be getting out. That comes somewhat selfishly from an Irish POV, but also from the perspective that it isn’t in their best interests to leave a huge market like the EU.
With regards to Trump. I never had a problem with him looking to clamp down on illegal immigrants. It is my primary issue with the EU at the moment that Merkel and Co allowed so many in too. I believe a country is justified in controlling their borders. With regards to his trade positions, I am generally in favour of more open markets, but the USA is an enormous market in itself. I do believe corporations have taking the piss in how they have operated them and a recalibration was needed given the US’s power.
My believe with Trump was always that he would take a business focused approach to the White House. While I hate the grotesque growth in public spending in the West and the debt accruing for the next generations, I do support infastructure spending which he did in the campaign (I wasn’t a fan of his Medicare proposals). I would rather money is spent on long term payback projects than goes into the pockets of union members and short term social programmes, which is what most public spending has been about.
Trumps personality flaws are manifest, but I don’t care for most of them. Him flying off the handle after watching a segment on Fox and Friends might outrage the Twitterati, but it makes no fundamental difference to the country. When he was freewheeling at the weekend after someone died I did have an issue with it, but otherwise it’s a meh from me.
Where did I say I supported Pinochet you prick with ears? To leap from opposition to Marxists to assuming support for military dictators is quite the feat, one only a champagne socialist could make. Allende, who had minority support, was bringing Chile down the path of Cuba, that is unquestionable. Chile was and is again one of the countries in South America with the highest standard of living and it sure isn’t due to socialism.
You’re all over the shop mate.
You couldn’t make it up with him bringing up Thatcher and Pinochet. It was pointed out to them on the Castro thread their hypocrisy in lauding Castro and ignoring the politicians who gave him glowing eulogies. “Balance” is the word they want then. If the person isn’t a left wing dictator though, there is no such thing!
There’s something wrong with the brains of middle aged devout socialists, people with normal brain development outgrow that nonsense by their mid twenties.
I have to say lad, while we would favour very different political ideologies, its a pleasure to watch a master at work filleting the poor gombeens on here.
