Where we really stand. Worlds Top 100 Universities

'Tis fucking true for ya.
On uni’s or colleges in general. I went through from a Further Ed College to CIT to UCC. I felt i got more out of the FEC and CIT than i ever got out of UCC. The teachers and lectures were far superior in CIT to UCC and the hands on and realistic approach in the FEC was very good as well.

[quote=“caoimhaoin”]'Tis fucking true for ya.
On uni’s or colleges in general. I went through from a Further Ed College to CIT to UCC. I felt i got more out of the FEC and CIT than i ever got out of UCC. The teachers and lectures were far superior in CIT to UCC and the hands on and realistic approach in the FEC was very good as well.[/QUOTE]

Realistic means more technical and more focused. That’s the mandate of an IT but not of a university. The focus on teaching is way stronger in the ITs alright, but in the world of academia it’s brilliant scholars and researchers that are at the top of the pile. Performance assessment has to be based on something quantifiable and teaching isn’t really.

Why not, serious question, you seem to know your shit on the subject.
Realistic to me was they told you more about the real working world.

Racism abounds on this thread it seems.

[quote=“caoimhaoin”]Why not, serious question, you seem to know your shit on the subject.
Realistic to me was they told you more about the real working world.[/QUOTE]

Not altogether easy to explain kev but I’d put it this way: What is John Nash famous for? What is Albert Einstein famous for? What is Michael Porter famous for? It’s not their teaching, it’s their intellectual output or their ‘research’. So it’s like that on a lesser scale. Institutions and academics will be known for their contribution to important debates or in other words, advancing thinking in the field. That’s where the prestige of a university or college will then come from. Think about it, if let’s say a number of internationally reknowned economists who consistently make important advances and conduct important research are situated in UCC, then economics graduates from UCC are going to be a lot more valuable than economics graduates from a university with a less prestigious faculty. Consequently more people are going to want to graduate with an economics degree from UCC. Now there are plenty of other conclusions you can develop from this in terms of the need to attract funding to pay superstar academics which means developing interesting research programmes and so on but you’ll work those out fairly easily yourself.

America > Ireland