Work Motivation Techniques

[quote=“Kinvara’s Passion, post: 823412, member: 686”]Done all the figures.

I could actually live with the loss in wages but I can’t put a price on the 20 hours a week id be losing with the family.

Grass is always greener indeed.

Kev will be disappointed.[/quote]

You need to man up and give the board a few hours at least over a dilemma like this. Have a look at how thrawneen does it every time a new pair of legs he likes walks by.

How far is the new job from Liffey Valley, by the way?

[quote=“Juhniallio, post: 823431, member: 53”]You need to man up and give the board a few hours at least over a dilemma like this. Have a look at how thrawneen does it every time a new pair of legs he likes walks by.

How far is the new job from Liffey Valley, by the way?[/quote]

Gonna do the interview anyway so will defer a final decision for now…

The job is in Tipperary :eek:

[quote=“Kinvara’s Passion, post: 823434, member: 686”]Gonna do the interview anyway so will defer a final decision for now…

The job is in Tipperary :eek:[/quote]
Picture driving to Tipperary from Galway at 7.15 am in 2 months time in the dark with rain lashing against your windscreen knowing you won’t be home for another 12 hours-then repeat that 5 days a week for 6 months for the next few years. Get a grip, bro.

You could have stopped after four words there.

[quote=“Kinvara’s Passion, post: 823389, member: 686”]So there is the job/industry I am in currently… 40 hours a week, well paid, I wouldn’t call it safe but its easy… no challenges and I am bored out of my block every day.

Now just this very day there is a job that has presented itself to me (well I know if I interview for it I’ll get it)… probably 50 hours a week, 3 hour commute daily(1.5 each way), 33% pay drop, going back down the pecking order… but I know I’ll like it and I know i’ll be happier in it.

Need to think about this… advice Kev?[/quote]

you would be nuts to take it

working 50 hours a week is insane,i read the top 10 things people say on their deathbed and “I should have worked less” is right up there

Family comes before everything .

[quote=“The Wild Colonial Bhoy, post: 823444, member: 80”]you would be nuts to take it

working 50 hours a week is insane,i read the top 10 things people say on their deathbed and “I should have worked less” is right up there

Family comes before everything .[/quote]

Before Tfk? You must have 100,000 posts by now…

[quote=“Kinvara’s Passion, post: 823389, member: 686”]So there is the job/industry I am in currently… 40 hours a week, well paid, I wouldn’t call it safe but its easy… no challenges and I am bored out of my block every day.

Now just this very day there is a job that has presented itself to me (well I know if I interview for it I’ll get it)… probably 50 hours a week, 3 hour commute daily(1.5 each way), 33% pay drop, going back down the pecking order… but I know I’ll like it and I know i’ll be happier in it.

Need to think about this… advice Kev?[/quote]

Personally the money wouldn’t be the issue. The 3 hour commute would say no to me. It’s about quality of life. The enjoyment of the job would be ruined by the time you get home. No time for exercise, stress in car etc. That would compound the loss of money and I think that’s 3-4 negatives to 1 positive.

Stay where you are, something good will come. Good hard workers eventual get their call. Patience is the answer here I’d say.

I have a 1 1/2 hour drive to work every morning. Up at 5.30am, in office by around 8.15am (unless I go for a run first up like this morning in which case I was in by 9am). Usually home by 7 / 7.30pm, a few late nights last week as was working on a tender submission. I don’t mind it, the traffic can be frustrating, but I get a lot of time to listen to the radio and podcasts and spend a fair bit of time on the phone for work. My job is flexible in that no one is timing when I’m in or leave and I work from home occasionally. If I need to be home early for something like Fitzy Jnr training or whatever, I do.

The reason fo this is that we couldn’t afford, or were not prepared to pay the ridiculous house prices in Sydney and didn’t want to live through shitting ourselves about the mortgage all the time. So we live 80kms outside of Sydney on the glorious Central Coast in a house on a large block that cost the equivalent of a shitty 2 bedroom unit in Sydney. The commute is the sacrifice to enable a very nice lifestyle in a great part of the world, without worry. The alternative for us would have been a short commute to and from very small, overpriced house and constant worry about how to pay that mortgage. Plenty of friends and colleagues are in this boat, no life at all as they can’t afford to do anything outside of paying a ridiculous mortgage.

Its fine saying time with family is the most important thing, but if you can’t afford to do anything, not much point.

So Oz is effectively identical to Dublin with regard the housing trap you just described.

I’m renting in Dublin. To buy a place where the mortgage would be equivalent to my rent I’d either have to go to Finglas or the likes of Enfield.

[quote=“The Wild Colonial Bhoy, post: 823444, member: 80”]you would be nuts to take it

working 50 hours a week is insane,i read the top 10 things people say on their deathbed and “I should have worked less” is right up there

Family comes before everything .[/quote]

Truth! I should have worked less is No 1.

If I was offered the job it would on the premise of working from home 2 days a week(after an initial 3 month transition) and a 20% improvement on salary…My terms.

Even then the Tipp factor could be just too much.

[quote=“Fitzy, post: 823468, member: 236”]I have a 1 1/2 hour drive to work every morning. Up at 5.30am, in office by around 8.15am (unless I go for a run first up like this morning in which case I was in by 9am). Usually home by 7 / 7.30pm, a few late nights last week as was working on a tender submission. I don’t mind it, the traffic can be frustrating, but I get a lot of time to listen to the radio and podcasts and spend a fair bit of time on the phone for work. My job is flexible in that no one is timing when I’m in or leave and I work from home occasionally. If I need to be home early for something like Fitzy Jnr training or whatever, I do.

The reason fo this is that we couldn’t afford, or were not prepared to pay the ridiculous house prices in Sydney and didn’t want to live through shitting ourselves about the mortgage all the time. So we live 80kms outside of Sydney on the glorious Central Coast in a house on a large block that cost the equivalent of a shitty 2 bedroom unit in Sydney. The commute is the sacrifice to enable a very nice lifestyle in a great part of the world, without worry. The alternative for us would have been a short commute to and from very small, overpriced house and constant worry about how to pay that mortgage. Plenty of friends and colleagues are in this boat, no life at all as they can’t afford to do anything outside of paying a ridiculous mortgage.

Its fine saying time with family is the most important thing, but if you can’t afford to do anything, not much point.[/quote]

That’s the right thing to do for you fitzy. We can’t get everything we want I understand.

But I ask you this, are you getting 2/3. As in

• Commute
• Job Satisfaction
• your rewards (money/where you live etc)

Now nobody will say the commute is good, and you clearly live in a good spot that you can afford. So that’s 1/2. Do you like the job? That’s what tips it for me.

I’m miles from having it right. I work 2 jobs, one of which is poorly paid and the time it takes to do “Job 2” (football) takes away from opportunity to earn in the main job. But I really enjoy the both of them and I like variety. I’d say football cost me anywhere between 12&20K in last 12 months. But I have got a years experience in S&C at a high level, extremely lucky.
I live by the beach, but have to drive 30-60 mins to get anywhere. 30-45mins I can handle but anymore is just too much.

But I’m jacking the Strength role as I need to put some money away and leave Perth. It’s a poor standard of living here and while I love working with the players themselves, the club is a backward pit of negativity, classism, racism andnarrow mindesness it affects my mood so nothing is worth that.

It’s funny how many Irish i meet recently are starting to re-think WA completely and going East, home or London & Canada. It’s dawning on alot of people that the money covers up alot of shit. This is a Police State full of xenophobic racist greedy cunts.

Fitzy, are you lucky enough to have Mrs Fitzy stay at home while you pull in the big bucks selling paint stripper or is she doing that kind of commute too? If she is then it’s madness on your kids. If she’s at home then you’re golden. Likely to be similar to the situation I’ll find myself in, in a few years unless Wexford manages to attract some massive multi-national.

Mrs Fitzy was able to give up work a few years ago Mac once I started earning more and she is now a university student doing a degree in something she is interested in at a uni 10kms from the house. We have flexibility between us to look after the heir apparent and his various needs such as three training sessions a week etc, so its worked out well.

That’s awesome. A mother at home is a luxury these days, and I would say one of the things lacking most in the world. I’m far from a sexist nor do I have any problem with women having hard working long term careers, but having the mother at home is huge.

You did well there fitzy.

@Fitzy- Out if interest, does she get to pay off degree after she finishes college?

[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 823478, member: 273”]That’s the right thing to do for you fitzy. We can’t get everything we want I understand.

But I ask you this, are you getting 2/3. As in

• Commute
• Job Satisfaction
• your rewards (money/where you live etc)

Now nobody will say the commute is good, and you clearly live in a good spot that you can afford. So that’s 1/2. Do you like the job? That’s what tips it for me.

I’m miles from having it right. I work 2 jobs, one of which is poorly paid and the time it takes to do “Job 2” (football) takes away from opportunity to earn in the main job. But I really enjoy the both of them and I like variety. I’d say football cost me anywhere between 12&20K in last 12 months. But I have got a years experience in S&C at a high level, extremely lucky.
I live by the beach, but have to drive 30-60 mins to get anywhere. 30-45mins I can handle but anymore is just too much.

But I’m jacking the Strength role as I need to put some money away and leave Perth. It’s a poor standard of living here and while I love working with the players themselves, the club is a backward pit of negativity, classism, racism andnarrow mindesness it affects my mood so nothing is worth that.

It’s funny how many Irish i meet recently are starting to re-think WA completely and going East, home or London & Canada. It’s dawning on alot of people that the money covers up alot of shit. This is a Police State full of xenophobic racist greedy cunts.[/quote]

Kev, love the job and I’m bloody good at it. I’ve done well at the last few places I’ve worked and been head hunted a few times, but never really enjoyed them, although I tended to run my own show with little interference. Started a new job just over two months ago and really like the company and people and I’ve gotten off to a great start, really positive. Rewards / money are great and it means we can do what I mentioned in reply to Mac above, so its worked out well. The commute is a pain at times, but its not an issue and I don’t mind it. I still exercise a fair bit, such as the running and play a lot of football (informal) with the kid and his mates / dads at the weekend, not to mention the tonne of work I do in a large garden at the weekends also.

The police state does not really impinge on my idyllic middle class life.

[quote=“Fitzy, post: 823483, member: 236”]Kev, love the job and I’m bloody good at it. I’ve done well at the last few places I’ve worked and been head hunted a few times, but never really enjoyed them, although I tended to run my own show with little interference. Started a new job just over two months ago and really like the company and people and I’ve gotten off to a great start, really positive. Rewards / money are great and it means we can do what I mentioned in reply to Mac above, so its worked out well. The commute is a pain at times, but its not an issue and I don’t mind it. I still exercise a fair bit, such as the running and play a lot of football (informal) with the kid and his mates / dads at the weekend, not to mention the tonne of work I do in a large garden at the weekends also.

The police state does not really impinge on my idyllic middle class life.[/quote]

I think it’s a good bit worse here than anywhere else fitzy.

No, she’s a mature age student and actually this is the first tertiary study she’s done, so its mostly grant enabled, but we do have fee’s to pay every semester, but nothing too serious. We have costs like books, equipment etc, but thats OK. She’s woorked really hard and is doing exceptionally well, constantly amazing me with her grades.

As to your previous point, completely agree. Fitzy jnr has benefitted greatly from the routine we have in place and Mrs Fitzy organises things very efficiently. I’m very lucky and just have to try not to be a dickhead all the time, I take it and her for granted a lot and shouldn’t.

[quote=“dancarter, post: 823474, member: 122”]So Oz is effectively identical to Dublin with regard the housing trap you just described.

I’m renting in Dublin. To buy a place where the mortgage would be equivalent to my rent I’d either have to go to Finglas or the likes of Enfield.[/quote]

It is absolutely Dan. A number of people I know at home have moved out of Dublin, even back to Wexford and do the commute every day.

As for here, I can’t understand why move don’t move up the coast out of Sydney. Its superb up here, nice people, amenities and brilliant beaches. And, as you would be aware, the current A League Champions, my beloved Central Coast Mariners.

Fitsy

Im happy that you are contented with your lot & you like it here.Im glaqd work is going well and the family life is in a good place

TWCB