Would Shiner Ahearne not have been better than Brenner? Johnny was a great u21 but I don’t remember him doing much at senior?
Could have Guiney in for Conran but Conran was a classier hurler (IMHO) and won an All Star when Wexford hurling was at a very low ebb.
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My auld lad always says Pat Hartigan was the GOAT.
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Yeah possibly, I don’t remember much of Shiner from his prime though, but I always thought Johnny was one of the finest midfielders I saw, on his day. However, he never really fulfilled his potential.
Calling for more time on the goalkeeper
Johnny Mac (tight & good on the ball)
Paddy Ivess (He just dominated forwards)
Mark O’Riordan (pace)
Paudie Browne (Forgiving him the wasted chances in 09 munster final)
Stephen Lucey (as good a 6 as any inthe country for most of the decade)
Conor Mullane (left too soon)
John Quane (no comment required)
John Galvin (ditto)
Stephen Kelly (#2 intl rules)
Paddy Barrett (#1 intl rules)
Seanie Buckley (leadership & point scoring)
Timmy Cummins (scores)
Muiris Gavin (scores)
Ian Ryan (scores)
Honourable mentions
Donal Fitzgibbon, Eugene Leonard, Danny Fitzgerald, Tom Browne, Buggy Fitzgerald, John Donovan, Damien Reidy, Tommy Stack, Stephen Lavin, James Ryan,
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Shiner was excellent on poor enough Waterford teams in the late 80’s and early 90’s. He got a few All Star replacements I think. Your roght about Brenner not fulfilling his potential
A great man for goals
He was very highly regarded and a perennial All-Star in the early years, but he was before my time and I have no real memory of him playing.
Cregan and McKenna lasted longer and I have vivid childhood memories of the buzz that went around a stadium when Big Joe went up to catch one out of the air and bury it in the net with that unusual style of his where he used drop the ball almost to the ground before striking it.
Johnny Brenner was a jibber.
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Shiner? Are you having a laugh?
Best Kilkenny team of my lifetime
Noel Skehan
Fan Larkin
Brian Cody
Willie O Connor
Tommy Walsh
Pat Henderson
JJ Delaney
Liam O Brien
Michael Fennelly
Henry Shefflin
Pat Delaney
DJ Carey
Billy Fitzpatrick
TJ Reid
Eddie Keher.
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My father always spoke highly of O’Gorman, thought he played further out the field?
Mine always said if Cregan had played for Cork at the time he’d be recognised as being up there with Christy Ring and DJ Carey. Always said he was the best he ever saw.
Best Waterford team
Stephen O Keeffe
Seamus Hannon
Sean Cullinane
Noel Connors
Tony Browne
Pat McGrath
Fergal Hartley
Mossy Walsh
John Galvin
Eoin Kelly
Ken McGrath
Dan Shanahan
John Mullane
Paul Flynn
Jim Greene
Limerick again
Joe Quaid (best shot stopper, unfairly blamed for 1994)
Steve McDonagh (teak)
Leonard Enright (easily the best we had)
Damien Reale (marked the best of them)
Liam O’Donoghue (skills & adaptability)
Ciaran Carey (no comment required)
Sean Foley (warrior)
Jimmy Carroll (the engine of the team)
Mike Houlihan (warrior)
Gary Kirby (scores)
Ollie Moran (best to lead the line)
Richie Bennis (scores)
Andrew O’Shaughnessy (a loss to the game as well as to Limerick)
Joe McKenna (goals)
Eamon Cregan (ahead of his time and incredibly skillful)
Honourable mentions; Pat Hartigan, Tommy Quaid, Pa Carey, Declan Nash, Donal O’Grady, Paul Browne.
A depressing exercise. So many players with potential who teased us for a couple of years and fell away.
So I have went for Dublin Players from the late 80’s till today.
- Stephen Cluxton
- Mick Deegen
- Gerry Hargan
- Keith Galvin
- Paul Curran
- Cian O’sullian
- Jack McCafferey
- Brian Mullins
- Dave Foran
- Alan Brogan
- Kieran Duff
- Ciaran Kilkenny
- Barney Rock
- Dermot Connolly
- Bernard Brogan
He was better than Johnny Brenner anyway. However I won’t argue with you as judging by your team you know a bot more about Waterford Hurling than I do.
Would have always been in the corner for Clare. A different breed altogether
Keith Galvin? He wouldn’t make the St Sylvester’s best ever team.
Dave Foran was a bit of a plodder too. Ciaran Whelan was miles better
Anyone that wasn’t frightened by their own shadow would have been better than Johnny Brenner.
No Declan Bolger and no Bealo?