Can’t believe the Cark boys are still putting Niall McCarthy in your teams for the Tipp game. The same was done with Timmy; rolling him out every game when he was out of date at least 4 years ago.
Eoin Kelly was a notable absetee from Waterford Senior hurling training last night. One possible explanation is that his missus is due a baby any minute now, the other is that Davy told him to fook off after his littel strop at the weekend.
Turrene, your rattledness is really showing your own insecurities about your hurling insights. Maybe Cussen is only a IC full forward, maybe Cussen isn’t a IC player at all in fact. Like we all said Limerick and Waterford (with a brand new young full back) in the league aren’t what we can really judge him on. I can only judge on what i have actually seen, and that as far as Mick Cussen is concerned is club hurling, which is obviously a level, if not two, below IC. But at that level (the level remember that got him this exposure remember) his best hurling has been as a floating corner forward or a half forward.
Now Cork have a few problems with these two big guys. Cussen is a little bit more subtle and can score inside, it seems anyway, but he can also score from angles and out the field from what i have seen. Aisake can’t really score at all going on recent evidence, but he seems to be a better man to show and win high ball. He also has a better work rate, but this doesn’t mean Cussen is lazy. Aisake doesn’t have (yet) a real ability to give a quick pass away though after winning possession, where as Cussen can. Cussen is also more comfortable flicking the ball away to team mates, and picking at speed.
Cussen isn’t lazy, i’ve seen an awful lot of the guy, met him, played against him etc. He’s got a way about him that seems very laid back, but he has plenty fire and passion, he just shows it in different ways. He is slightly cumbersome of course, and to the untrained eye this may come across as lazy.
Cluain (and i agree) was saying that the 2 O’ Connors were not really suited to playing on the same half forward line. I was trying to find a way of having both playing (personally don’t think Jerry is up to 70 mins midfield) and having the big two guys playing. Aisake will work and work, and win ball, but is as likely to lose it out half forward, Cussen isn’t. With crabit corner forwards (Horgan & Ben) Aisake could create havoc. Ben has played plenty in the corner, Jerry showed something i hadn’t seen in hurling in a while at center forward. Niall Mac and Cussen would win ball, Jerry would help midfield, as well as a bonus of pulling men like Hogan and O’ Mahoney around the place.
Of course you could swap the two big guys, but as i pointed out, someone like Declan Fanning would eat up Aisake even if he won the ball.
Turrene you’ve never coached or managed a team, its not me saying “oh i’m great to have done so”, its just you would realise if you did that sometimes you have to play around a bit, rob peter to pay paul to pay peter back.
Cork doesn’t have 2 things, we don’t have a plethora of young hurlers chomping at the bit to get on the team, and we don’t have a settle team circa. 2003-2006, so DW will have to try something different, and even in championship this year, there will be a bit of trial and error.
He’s a far better hurler than Timmy Locke. He’s also in superb shape this year and really is a rallying type of guy for both the Cork team and crowd. I’ve been very impressed (and surprised) by his form this year.
Appendage, if you actually coached or played at a high level, like Kevin, then you’d understand and realise that he’s right in this instance and indeed right all the time.
Not rattled in the slightest Kev - you amuse me more than any other poster because you’re actually being seriously and that’s the funniest part for me. :lol:
If you want to discuss the merits of the Cork hurling team bando go right ahead, point out whats so funny. Cos you have all the inside info with the relations from Kilworth.
The most gasest comment for me in the to-ing and fro-ing above being the number of levels it is between senior club hurling and inter county hurling. How do we measure them? With a ruler?
Eh, on the standard of the games and players taking part generally Appendage. Something like this.
Junior Club
Intermediate club
Senior & Intermediate anywhere outside Cork, Galway, Killkenny, Tipperary, Waterford, Clare
Senior Club
U-21 IC
Fitzgibbon Cup
National League
Munster Championship
All-Ireland Championship.
RE: Cussen, playing wing-forward at senior club level (usually coming off the bench with twenty minutes to go when everyone else is knackered) isn’t the same as playing wing forward at senior inter-county level for 70 minutes. Simples.
Aisake is more of an athlete then Cussen and tries harder to track back and stop his man from playing - hence the former is better suited to wing forward then the latter. Even simpler.
So what about when he actually wins the ball at half forward? Haven’t you seen some decencies in him at that no?
Turrene, if you even tried to coach any team at all you’d actually learn alot, so slagging me about who i have coached or what levels holds no water at all when you have in fact admitted to have never coached at all.
Aisake cant hurl,hes so limited hes lucky to be able to keep the hurl in his hand when hes running for a ball,Cussen is no Henry Shefflin but hes not a bad finisher and will be Corks bean pole fella for the championship,its a no brainer for you Cork lads,theres no need to be argueing over the merits of the two players.
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Aisake cant hurl,hes so limited hes lucky to be able to keep the hurl in his hand when hes running for a ball,Cussen is no Henry Shefflin but hes not a bad finisher and will be Corks bean pole fella for the championship,its a no brainer for you Cork lads,theres no need to be argueing over the merits of the two players.[/quote]
Ah Link, trying to tell two Corkies not to be arguing is like telling a dog not to eat meat.