Again, you’ve entirely ignored it.
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No, it’s an excuse. This bunch of Cork players have shown themselves time and time again to be a mentally weak and gutless lot. They don’t need excuses to exonerate them.
Sure I could claim for the laugh that Donegal are mentally weak and gutless or that the Armagh or Tyrone teams of the 2000s were gutless and I’d have as much to back me up as you have.
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He doesn’t want to learn/listen. Your words are wasted on the ignorant.
When he won’the listen to a man who turned around one of the weakest mindsets in gaelic football into an almost unshakeable force then who will he listen to.
Corks internal issues like the excuse and blame cultures that exist are legitimate accusations, however that doesn’t excise the farcical competition set ups that exist in GAA
I wouldn’t mind but @Nembo Kid was making excuses all over the place for Derry losing to Galway.
Or there were different factors arising. Haven’t you cited Donegal’s lack of hunger as the reason for their collapse in 2013? Tyrone won their 3 All Irelands and Armagh had their one. I’m sure both counties would have won more if they had the safe passage the likes of Cork and Kerry had.
Cork were an embarrassment last Saturday, there were no excuses for it.
I didn’t make excuses I said the better team won but the refereeing performance was a biased disgrace. Don’t be getting twisty when your argument falls short.
Peter The Great said that how players react to the qualifiers is tantamount. Cork players didn’t want to know about it.
Adaptation. Elite players tend to react poorly to defeats. They question everything and doubt themselves when a defeat demonstrates they are not good enough.
Not sure if footballers have a sports psychologist involved but classic example of merits of having one
Ya if Cork had Fermanagh run and time from loss to qualifier they’d be there too. You really don’t seem capable of working this one out do ya.
The value of being able to take a Tuesday night off, doing a bit of extra gym work, then having a good fun session on the Thursday and then belts g into it again at the weekend (or playing club games) cannot be underestimated.refocus, set new targets etc.
But again I shouldn’t expect someone like you t and that so I don’t know how many times I need to explain such things.
You are just too stupid
Yes I did, and I still would.
I didn’t say the refereeing performance wasn’t poor. However Derry were still in a position where they could have pushed on and won, but fell flat on their face for the last 25 minutes. Excuses can be legitimate, but as you say they’re still excuses at the end of the day. Or context, whatever you want to call it.
Cork won their All-Ireland through the back door.
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Take defeat badly? Yes.
React badly? Nonsense.
Elite players are elite players mainly because they have a strong resolve to rolling over and lying down when things don’t go as planned.
I covered that point already in case you didn’t notice, they were within a whisker of going out to Limerick in the qualifiers, they got their bit of fortune.
And I didn’t say Derry were beaten by the referee, as you said they were still I’m a winnable position well into the second half but let their heads drop. I didn’t say the referee beat Derry but I did say he had a big influence on the game and he was biased and disgraceful.
The “6 day turnaround” is an excuse. Players have their destiny in their own hands and Cork were just gutless as they have shown many times over the years.
They don’t. Do the hurlers?
You are right though, elite players look at management immediately. And when you control everything like CutBert liked to do that can backlash.
Weak managers then blame the players or the skills coach or the fitness guy. Good managers have already embedded personal responsibility in the players and they take it on collectively and the manager goes away and tries to improve as well.
Trust and patience are key
You could call that good fortune mental strength.
You can call it excuse, you can call it fortune. Luck of the draw often plays a huge part in how a team will do in the qualifiers.
Cork had it in 2010, they didn’t have it this year.
Armagh had it in 2003, they didn’t have it in 2001. Kerry had it in 2002, 2006 and 2009. Down had it in 2010.
that is definitly correct on Derry re discipline
i remember watching their game against Donegal and they looked a mess in the last 20, no discipline at all, fellas lashing out, tantrums, etc… it was almost immature really
Hurlers don’t. which was a mistake in my view
do any forum members agree with my ascertations on another thread that Galway will give Donegal a serious trimming on Saturday night?
a few of us made decent money taking on Moanaghan at 11/4 the last day, ok we had the knowledge that Monaghan had 2 piss easy challenge type games , they were untested i agree and that was the risk factor in the odds , Donegal had come thru a 3 game war looking utterly knackered that night in Clones where they struggled to put away that ugly mess of a Derry team that dont know how to win a game…
the last day Donegal looked shot, Lacey looked bollixed, Toye getting bullied in his own FB line, yer man Mcgee the FB taken to the cleaners, Murphy slow, cumbersome… Galway are the sort of crowd who could cut loose, they showed bits of it against Mayo, Croke Park, huge pitch, fresh team, nothing to loose, i think it could be complete clipping
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Cork didn’t have it any years they had to meet Kerry, they went down tamely. Cork never really came close to an All Ireland bar 2010 which they won. They lost easily in all their other final appearances and only other real narrow defeat was Dublin in 2011.
Armagh were very close in 2000, 2003 and 2005. I see similarities in Armagh and Donegal in that both relied on a small group of players and were quite experienced when they managed to get their act together under new management which meant their time at the top was short and coming out of Ulster year on year was exhaustive. Tyrone were churning out quality players at that time but were also hit badly with injuries and the passing of one our of their key players.
Lacey is out. Gallagher should be freshening the side up for Galway and giving the likes of Hugh McFadden, Eoin McHugh and others a chance.