For all their resources they win fuck all and they are as windy a shower of cunts as you could hope to meet. Numbers are all well and good but this is the GAA and you can’t beat tradition, breeding and knowing when to lower the blade against a shower of windy cunts.
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I used to love watching Craobh Chiarain in their heyday and the way they could make these super clubs soil their undergarments.
Where do Ciaran’s pull players from? i was led to believe that they are Doneycarney but I see they have a pitch out by Northercross after you come off the M50 heading towards Clarehall
They halted Boden’s progress for a good 5 years. Absolute timber merchants.
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Donnycarney. Tiny but fearsome club in their day. I still have a hole on my shinbone that I can trace back to a game against them 30 years ago.
Much smaller clubs than them with similar. Well intenioned no doubt, and if they place their goals in a certain way then they may be reached and they can pat themselves on the back.
However they cannot succeed, on all known evidence or indeed in my opinion, in what the true goals should be. KC themselces are only doing their best, however this is why i think the GAA should be stepping in.
Then the entire area realigns. Thats what smart forward thinking non-ego driven people do.
They developed into super clubs because they uad the catchment area to do so.
I’m not dismissing the good work done, at all, more power to them.
But logically if there was more vlubs more of the middling and lessser players would stick around. You spread the wealth. These players have more of an affiliation with their club, more players play Div.1 etc
I don’t get you. Crokes catchment area covers places like middle and upper class D4 where GAA doesn’t exist. Towards Sandyford there’s Naomh Olaf. Further South there’s a club (albeit mainly football) in Cabinteely. Towards the sea you’re into places like Blackrock and more middle / upper class rugby territory before you get to the crowd in Dalkey whose name escapes me. While their area might look huge geographically its covers a large area who barely know GAA even exists.
Boden is a bit similar but someone like @Bisto will correct me if I’m wrong. They have Ballinteer on one side of them withjng 4km or so. The club who were objecting to Tallaght stadium on the other side and Faughs (fairly inactive I think) close by too. Between Boden and Ballinteer youve got an area with a decent amount of rugby focused schools and rugby area and between Boden and Tallaght youve got what would probably be a more predominantly soccer playing population.
Open to correction on this from anyone who knows the local areas better than me. Huge parts of Dublin just aren’t and will never be GAA focused areas. Other counties don’t really have this dynamic on such a big scale.
Kev you’re trying to apply a country model to a suburban set up. County towns, surrounding lands and parish identity make it easier to set up down the country. Not so in Dublin in established suburban areas. If you’re complaining about lack of participation opportunities for different levels of ability at adult level, then I don’t see that as a major issue given the likes of the bigger clubs are supporting 4 or 5 adult teams.
However, if the want is there it can happen. A new GAA club has set up in Blanchardstown (on the door step off the centre of excellence although I doubt they’ll get use of it!) just last year and only 2 years after Tyrrellstown set one up.
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What has class got to do with it?
Has someone hit you on the head recently cos you are fucking dumber than ever.
Lets spit it out for you. Lets use Tralee as a comparision. In the population hinterland of Tralee there are circa 23k people and 5 clubs. St. Pats, Na Gael, Stacks, Rahillys & Mitchels. Tralee is a good example as most of the clubs are going well and the smaller ones are progressing. They also have moved borders a few times and have similar rules to movement within clubs as Dublin does.
- 2 clubs in an area of (i’m guesstimating from a quick search) say 40k people. And i think i may be signif8cantly under there.
- even split is 20k each, split again would be around 10k. Thats still around double what those Tralee clubs have on average.
- 4 clubs.
- Better retention
- more players exposed to high levels etc
Now there is no way in hell i will believe there isn’t the money or the physiçal land to do this. The only thing lacking is the will.
Thats great but they were born out of a lack of a club, not there being a big daddy club.
It has nothing to do with a country set up, thats a cop out. Makes little difference. In fact due to the influx of people, high turnover and generally less emotional attachment to clubs in growing suburban areas it actually should be easier in Dublin. Far easier in fact.
I’ve said it twice, adult is irrelivant. They make their own decisions. The renention and oarticipation matters most up to 17/18/19 or LC time.
That’s a gross insult to Clanna Gael / Fontenoy. Crokes have eaten into our catchment area for years and hoovered up most of Ballsbridge and Donnybrook.
@Fagan_ODowd Craobh Ciaran are notorious for poaching players from other areas so they’re not quite the romantic battlers you make them. Fuck them and their garish kits.
Are Craobh the ones where the players ride each others wives?
I wouldn’t know about that, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
Interesting.
In another matter entirely, who would be a well known hurler for Craobh out of curiousity?
McCrabbe? Presume he’s gone now is he??
What part of Ringsend is upper class mate?