2016 All Ireland Hurling Semi Final - Waterford v Kilkenny - in the melting pot

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Thatā€™s the all black mentality to a tee. All this talk of average players misses the point completely.

Both organisations have a culture and ethic that demands success. A harsh, tough environment that demands complete commitment to their view of the basics, with anything else a bonus. None of this cuddling we see from other managers.

Kk were on the rack today and everything went right for wd, scoring from everywhere. Another team would have been hammered.

Not kk. They relied on their version of hurling basics, and kept at them, believing an opening would eventually appear. And it did. I felt the minute gleeson went for the sideline, it was over for them.

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This Tipp team could be the GOAT, better than the 5 in a row team of 2010 even.

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:grin:

Been saying all along that game was a freak.

Tipp looked very ordinary in the first half. But with the free for all the second half turned into, they were always going to make hay with those forwards. Hard to know what to expect from Tipp. In '09, '10, and '14 (three Munster teams) they looked great in the semi-finals. In '11, '12, and '15 (three ā€˜Leinsterā€™ teams) they struggled. With the exception of '09, the general perception of them at the conclusion of the provincial stage was wide of the mark.

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Michael Ryan seems to be far superior then Oā€™Shea as a managerā€¦being genuinely honest theyā€™ve strengthened in key areas were they were previously weak from 2012-2015 in particular when everyone expected them to kick on after winning the AI in 2010.

Breen and R Maher are great additions and John McGrath is a huge threatā€¦unreal direct.

Judging by Tipp lads I knowā€¦theyā€™re unusually openly confident since the Munster Final but I can still see a Galway ambush comingā€¦

[quote=ā€œBig_Mick_McCarthy, post:130, topic:22798, full:trueā€]while Walsh, Colin Fennelly and Fogarty will give it their all in every game and set a tone in terms of workrate and physicality none of them really have the class to really turn a game when things are going against Kilkenny
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They havenā€™t the class?

Fennelly set up the goal.

Walsh scored it.

ā€¦ and Fogarty scored the equaliser!

All pressure situations requiring plenty of class IMO.

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For 65 mins today, Waterford respected Kilkenny but didnā€™t fear them (a great mantra of the late John Wooden). Itā€™s exactly how to play them. Donā€™t let their marquee players settle or get time on the ball, and hit hard and often. Early in the first half Mick Fennelly look shook from the positivity, the physicality and the intensity of Waterfordā€™s play.

I havenā€™t been a fan of Waterford or their style this year, but it was hard not to side with them today. They used their system, but pushed up on goal more. Very positive approach. More of the same next week please.

All the more reason Galway should be sickened with the 2015 AI final. Noone stepped up to soften Fennelly and Hogan when the heat was turned up. Fennelly is not some fucking yeti monster FFS, heā€™s there to be taken on.

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Austin Gleeson gave a real tour de france today.

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The hawk eye to put Waterford 4 points up, looked inside the post.

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I agree, and thought both that were overruled were inside, but will have to look back at it.

Either Hawkeye is doing a Hal and turning into a real umpire, or they never changed the settings from the football :grin:

I donā€™t want to talk about it.

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o mahony

Where in the name of Jesus did that come from. Have you been on the sauce again

The gaa would seem to have decided that if any part if the virtual ball is touching part of the virtual post, itā€™s a nil.

Over the post never counted when it was jumpers for goalposts.

WD will be sick they gave KK that short puck out after that late free to take the lead. KK gave 2 short passes & Fogarty scores the leveler from distance with no one near him. Real pity they didnā€™t just keep the foot on KKā€™s throat.

Need to have higher posts then surely. At least in the old days you had a 50:50 chance of a blind umpire getting it right.

The rule is that if it makes contact with the blue line then it is a wide