2017 All Ireland Senior Football Championship

Why? Who is responsible for his complete ignorance and inability to admit being wrong? Thats a very significant human defect, but is hugely environmental.

Why is that out of bounds compared to any of the nonsense he throws out?

Get over it. Toughen up.

Lolz.

It just goes to show you how dangerous the qualifiers can be. You are consistently dicing with death in them. It must be great to be in an easy province like Munster where you get parachuted into the last 12 year on year.

It is certainly better being part of the Republic of Ireland than being a Brit alright

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I wouldn’t be boasting about being a free state quisling.

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Jesus you’re some space cadet

After Donegal struggling past a rubbish Longford side yesterday the merits of the Tyrone win over them needs to be taken down a few notches.

Derry are out. Based on the established TFK protocols they get absolutely zero credit for the draw against mayo because they completely filled the togs in extra time and were obliterated. Derry are shit.

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Good one mate

Seems like you’re settling in for another top day on holidays 16 hours posting inane shit on here

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Sure nearly half of last year’s panel didn’t commit for Derry this year. Mayo needed extra time to get past them but what matters is they did.

Donegal got a win on the board which was all they needed to do.

On the whole, there were limp performances from Donegal, Mayo and Meath yesterday but it’s not unusual for sides to struggle in the early qualifier rounds.

There’s a track record of teams plodding their way through the qualifiers before turning it on in August/September. It’s always best to avoid the perils of the qualifiers and win your province which is why Kerry have a leg up every year beating the cannon fodder of Munster.

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Huh? 3 of the top 4 are from Munster are they not? Clare/Tipp/Kerry were all semi-finalists last year, no?

yes

Yet Dublin played mayo in the final

No they weren’t.

I just asked, mate… I haven’t a notion what goes on with bogball… I just assumed the almighty Kerry were there…

Good point.

That means the rankings of the provinces are as follows:

  1. Ulster
  2. Leinster
  3. Connacht
  4. Munster
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You cannot make excuses for one county and then ridicule another.

In a county system like we have in Ireland responsibility is very broad. Strong and progressive leadership at CB is needed. A robust county championship, a reasonably happy (thus playing regularly) club delegates and teams, a progressive manager with some bit of suitable education and practical experience behind him, a link to decelooment squads etc and a general mutual appreciation for each other, especially in dual counties.

So if Derry have lads good enough to play but are not available, tgen thats everybodies fault, but esoecially the CB.

My club has an entire team of senior standard footballers not playing. A small parish not using 15 adult of playing age olayers. Its insane, but its a shit club so why would they bother. Cork has hurlers and footballers not committing, because it is not worth it. Thats primarily the CB’s fault but its also a weakness from clubs and players. So everyone has a responsibility.

So you cannot have it both ways. Excuses allowed, or completely not.

I’m of the no excuses variety.

Ulster football is not great. They are not producing smart footballers anymore with maybe the exception of Monaghan and maybe Donegal. You talk to anyone involved in county development squads or Feiles or any of that and they will tell you Ulster clubs and counties are develooing teams to “win”, and win early at 14/15/16/Minor etc. Not how to “play” And they have systems and power. By all accounts the Burren were a classic example last week who were described to me as “reminded me of the Conor Counihan Cork team of 2000’s”. You hear the same about development squads, minir teams, Sigerson. Over instructed play.

Thats what will keep Ulster down for the foreseeable

I’m not making excuses. They are just facts that a lot of the better players in Derry have made themselves unavailable for county football.

Until Derry address that they won’t do much. That’s a fact, not an excuse.

Is Ulster football not great?

A half strength Derry side just put it up to Mayo for a good 70 minutes yesterday. You were bigging Monaghan up big time and so far they have scraped past Cavan before being dumped out by Down.

I would say natural order will be restored this year and Ulster will have the highest proportion of quarter finalists, as per usual.

When Down rise, history tells us that Derry aren’t far behind.

That view has been reinforced by yesterday.

There is serious football talent in Derry and if Damien Barton can get the players to commit in the same manner Down have this year, it won’t be long before they’re challenging at the business end of the championship again.

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They are not half strength. They have all the major players and few if any of the guys “missing” have pedigree. So it is an excuse you are making for Derry. They are as good as they can be.

Its alot more than names on a sheet.

They put it up to Mayo because
a) they are half decent and have a number of excellent footballers
b) Mayo are very slow movers in terms of championship performances and may well have gone back a touch. But again we don’t know yet.

Kerry win All irelands after poorer displays against worse teams than Derry.

I am not sure what natural order you are on about. We would need a maths & formula expert to tell us ehich province is most successful based on making last 8 (which i actually agree is a decent barometer of a championship). As Ulster has 9 teams, thus more opportunity etc. So it would have to be weighted and obciously from time of qualifiers.

Other than that you are just making up shit.