2017 All Ireland Senior Football Championship

All teams kick the ball in if it’s on. When the top teams play each other it is very rare that it’s on such is the numbers all the top sides flood back behind the 45 yard line.

Which is why I said they could learn from the success Antrim had against Donegal.

An accurate diagonal ball played early into the attack is the best option to beat a strong defence.

Antrim didn’t have success. They scored 1-09 and lost by 16 points. Irrespective of that the top teams will play with a lot more respect against the other top sides than teams like Antrim, so the space and lack of intensity they afford to a team like Antrim won’t be afforded to a top team.

They won Leinster in 1944. They’ve won very few championship matches since then.

They got to a Leinster semi-final back in 2011 , I only remember because we beat them

You’re a simpleton.

They spurned two goal chances that would have given them a seven or eight point lead in the first half. The equates to success against one of the best defences in the country.

This bullshit about showing respect to the other teams is exactly why Tyrone and Donegal failed to do anything against the top three in the last few years.

They were crippled by fear.

missing chances is now a sign of success

lolzers

You’re a simpleton. All the big teams don’t neglect to send it in direct and early. It’s just not on very often due to defence in mass numbers.

Look at the goals scored in recent years. They ate generally coming from runners from deep or botched lockouts or goalkeepers dropping clangers under a high ball.

Players will pass it in long if it’s on. None of the top teams employ the style the team that lost by 16 points yesterday did as it is not on. It gives the ball away cheaply and leaves the team susceptible to be countered quickly. It’s very basic and I find it odd that you keep attending Ulster games despite having no allegiances and constantly moaning about the quality and style on show. Why are you there?

The point I was making, and you are too dim witted to understand, is that this is an alternative to that that was shown to be successful against an extremely strong defence. There wasn’t an element of chance as they were spreading it out wide and putting the ball in front of their man.

I have as much, and more, allegiance as a blown-in from Italy who thinks that Gaelic Football should be played by teams afraid to try and play football.

Donegal are playing a better brand of football than they were last year but there’s still room for improvement so that they don’t get caught out by an average side. Like they did against Tyrone last year.

As far as I know Carlow haven’t won 2 games in a row in a Leinster Championship since 1944

You have no allegiances and moan about the quality and style of football. So answer the question, why do you bother going?

You haven’t the first notion what you are talking about.

Donegal have done nothing the last 2 years once they’ve reached the last 8 as that team reached the end of its natural cycle. They were carrying players whose legs had clearly gone. This year they’ve added lots of fresh blood and I’d expect them to be a genuine threat in the last 8 if they get there.

Tyrone have came up short because they just haven’t been good enough in front of the posts. They have had the chances to eliminate both Kerry in 2015 and Mayo last year had they taken them. It’s funny how you criticise Tyrone and Donegal for their style of play yet can’t separate it from the fact that all the top teams employ it.

Mayo and Kerry were unable to create a single goal chance against Tyrone in their Championship meetings yet Tyrone created a plethora against Kerry and had the only one against Mayo. What cost Tyrone was their inability to take advantage of this. They had the goal chances to put Kerry out of reach and they kicked it away against Mayo last year anyway.

It has been a combination of lacking in composure and clinical efficiency in front of the posts that has been Tyrone’s undoing, not the style of football they play. The league match with Dublin was another classic example this year.

Hard to see that changing this year.

Carlow will be tough opposition. I know this because Jonny Cooper said so. Jonny Cooper knows more about Gaelic football than anybody here and I’ll be taking his opinion over the opinion of anybody on this forum, thanks very much.

Nobody in Dublin is taking this match for granted - if we’re not at full throttle we could easily end up on the wrong end of a shock.

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Not even the robot Gavin could talk this up.

I have an allegiance. Clearly you cannot read or I don’t know how you missed that. It would take an idiot to be so blind in their devotion to the cause that they are following that they cannot see room for improvement.

Look you’re obviously suffering for some odd reason this morning and are looking for a row. I merely said that Donegal and the other top teams could learn a lesson from the way that Antrim distributed the ball to their inside forwards via a diagonal cross field ball to give the advantage to the forward.

Carry on with your inability to see the potential for improvement but don’t try and drag the rest of us down with your blindness.

What allegiance have you?

I’m merely pointing out the absurdity of the suggestion that other teams could learn from a side who got beaten by 16 points yesterday. It’s like saying Ronaldo could learn a lot from Paul McShane.

I said they could learn from a tactic that paid dividends twice early in the first half.

I didn’t say that they should copy their entire tactics, training plan and selection process.

Half my family is now from Donegal and I live there. What allegiance did you have to Tyrone before you moved there, or your new favourite hurling team Galway?

Their tactics saw them lose by 16 points.

Waterford are my favourite hurling team. I adore Tyrone. I’m not into residency fanaticism, I’ll follow my :heartbeat:

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Indeed but a close look at the first half will show you that they carved Donegal open for two clear goal chances that they should have converted early on.

That has nothing to do with the fact that their own shocking defence and the fact that they were simply unable to live with the fitness and physicality of Donegal in the second half.