That is rare enough around here. Esepcially in this thread
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Well thatās a load of one-eyed commentary, absolutely biased nonsense.
You mention Dublinās forward power but nothing about the fact they really struggled between the posts against Monaghan the last day out, a Monaghan side whose best defenders now look past it or out of form.
Tyrone may not have aced such an awe inspiring attacking threat as Dublin before, but Dublin have met such a defensively well drilled and gutsy team as Tyrone before, that was 2014 and they lost it.
You donāt think Tyrone have a hope, funny you said the same about Armagh against Kildare. You also said Donegal and Monaghan were ahead of Tyrone before Tyrone romped to an Ulster victory - hammering Donegal and where Monaghan fell to Down. There seems to be a pattern there.
The form lines point to two evenly matched sides. Jim McGuinness has been gushing about Tyrone this year and oddly enough he thinks Tyrone are the best coached team in the country.
It will be close and Tyrone have a real chance. A bit like how you were giving it with all the big guns with Armagh and Kildare but when push came to shove you couldnāt even give the market value, you were only happy at 50/50 odds which doesnāt portray a man extremely confident in his proclamations of a foregone conclusion.
You donāt believe what youāre typing.
Tyrone are well used to attacking from wide. You donāt score as much they have been without being able to do that.
And they have more practice than Dublin of doing it against mass defences.
Mayo set up a basic sweeper system in the draw last year. It almost completely negated the Dublin forward line.
One thing doing it against Kildare.
Another thing entirely against Tyrone.
Brogan has looked off the pace against Kerry and Mayo in big matches since 2015.
Flynn has yet to convince anybody who watches Dublin regularly that heās back to anywhere near his 2012-2014 best.
Heās a great footballer? Well, duh. The primary reason he has to start is that there are worries over the other Dublin forwards on an individual level. At 20 OāCallaghan will likely find it very tough. Rock is alright kicking scores from play against Kildare but Tyrone will likely swallow him up. Kilkenny is not a noted score taker these days. Flynn and Brogan probably wonāt start.
Andrews and Mannion are in form but they play close to goal.
Dublin will need somebody with the ability to kick scores from distance and Connolly is the only likely starter with a proven ability to do that.
You have to start him on the basis that he will be ready. But we wonāt know that until the match is on.
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Agree with most of that about Dublin but would like to see mannion left close to the goal for full gameā¦seems to drift out too muchā¦heās lethal when left one on one near goal.
It really hard to know what to make of tyroneā¦theyāve not been tested by anyone in champo this year. .they could be anything. .my guess is theyll go after kilkenny more than anyoneā¦people talk about Donegal in 2014 but they forget connolly and flynn missed to really good goal chances in first half that would have completely buried donegal. .what transpired was as much a freak result as anything else as itās so proved since as in donegal have done nothing and dubs are unbeaten in champo sinceā¦
Itās hardly his fault that in three of those four years the Ulster Champions werenāt good enough to win their quarter final and have a chance to meet the Dubs.
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Kilkenny is the hub on which most of Dublinās attacks hinge. Heās always everywhere scheming, supporting and linking.
You need a fast player to detail him. Conor Meyler might be the man.
2014 wasnāt a freak. Donegal just had a good game plan and stuck to it. Sure they had a bit of luck but that game plan gave them the platform which they exploited.
You could argue the result might have been different had Dublin scored a goal, but the quality of the points they were scoring in the first half was freakish too. That couldnāt continue.
As @Nembo_Kid says, itās about having a game plan to give you a platform to win.
Individual events will take their course after that.
Donegal did it in 2011 against Dublin, Mayo did it in the draw last year but neither could complete the job.
Waterfordās game plan gave them the platform to beat Cork last Sunday.
Thereās good reason to think Tyroneās game plan will give them the platform to win. That doesnāt mean they will win but in Johnny Giles parlance, itās your starting point.
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Fucksake.
I hope both Dublin and Tyrone lose.
Wankers.
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Where did McGuiness say that?
Its some championship record Kerry have against Connacht sides. Since losing the 1965 All Ireland Final to Galway, it reads P23 W20 D2 L1.
Dublin learned from it.
The winner gets to write history, as McGuinness did, but as you say it was largely Dublin leaving them in it
Their game plan has not won them a major game in 9 years. Why should anyone expect that to change. You are guessing and outting ridiculous stats and arguments to pounts nobody is making.
What evidence is there to say Callaghan will struggle. Its just lazy pub talk. He for instance has played it every way it has come to him this year.
Sid is brown-nosing Nembo here and making a fucking show of himself.
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Their game plan has only been in existence since 2015. It would be hard to win them a big game in the preceding 7 years when it was not being implemented.
OāCallaghan struggled the last day against Monaghan.
The same game plan that lost to 14 man Mayo last year so? Sounds like real groundbreaking stuff 
Lost to 14 man Mayo?
Are you drunk.
I believe Dublin edged past 15 man Mayo after a replay last year.
Dublin win major titles pal, thatās our game plan.
How did that game plan work in 2014?
Tyrone have not won an All-Ireland semi-final or final since 2008.
I hate to have to agree with @anon7035031, but what relevance has that to anything?
New teams emerge all the time in sport.
Tyroneās current game plan and team has only been in place properly since 2015.
Why would anybody have expected Tyrone to beat Kerry in 2003? Tyrone had never beaten a Munster or Leinster team in championship history before that. Kerry were vastly experienced and had most of their players had a proven history of winning All-Irelands.
All analysis of what might happen in a match is guessing.
Iām not sure you quite grasp the concept of football discussion.
Stats on what has happened previously are facts.
He struggled against Monaghan. Heāll face a tighter, tougher, more physical defence against Tyrone.
Dublin have had experience of young players who have had long seasons fading in All-Ireland semi-finals and finals.
McCaffrey, Kilkenny and Mannion all faded in 2013.
Saying that might happen to OāCallaghan is conjecture, by definition, but again, all talk about what might happen in a future match is conjecture, by definition, and thatās all youāve offered here.
Itās just that some of the conjecture on this thread is more reasoned than other.
For some reason you take anybody giving Tyrone a chance of winning this match as a personal affront, much as you did anybody giving Armagh a chance against Kildare. Armagh won.
Bizarre behaviour.
Itās won 4 of the last 6 all-Irelandās mate.
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