2017 GAA National Football League (AKA Kerry's stroll to yet more silverware)

I was on the -1, very impressed with what I saw of them last week. They were five up in the second half and let Longford back to a point :confounded:

Dublin and Tyrone game being shown again on Eir Sports 2 now.

Hampsey was brilliant last night, should be a regular this year.

Yeah, I was at it and Cork were absolutely putrid at times. The awareness and decision making was appalling, and a better team than Kildare would’ve given them a serious beating. There was one period of about 10 minutes in the middle of the first half where Cork couldn’t get the ball out of their own half. I don’t know if they just didn’t fancy it in rotten conditions, but whatever it was I’d have been sickened by it if I was a Cork fan.

Kildare played reasonably well and its a big win for a young, developing team but I’d say you couldn’t read a lot into it.

Great to see the mess Kevin McStay has Roscommon in.

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Cork players looked so dead in the gym the other night.

A few were skipping and they couldn’t do it without making woeful noise. No spring to them at all.

Eamon Ryan is doing all the training, no conditioning coach. His training is old school to say the least.

He won a pile of all Irelands in ladies football .

Are you implying that women’s all Irelands require less standards of fitness ?

No i am saying that they in fact, relatively, require more fitness.

From what i have seen the hardest training teams in the womens game are the most successful.

Until last year there was little science to Cork ladies.

The reason Cork are doing so bad is because they are shit.

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Shameful how bad things are in Down.

Hard to argue with that as a collective. They are brutal.

Hard to know what the plan is but don’t Michael Shields hanging around long being no.24. Carrying at least 3 backs that are probably not IC standard. Retirement of Patrick Kelly was a surprise and a kick in the bollix for them all. They have no continuity in Coaching or S&C. Going nowhere fast.

Laois are the favourites for Division 3 according to Boyle Sports, 11/4

Alan Freeman has left the Mayo squad citing work commitments. He started against Monaghan in the first round.

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Not a free man.

Kev

Shields and Cadogan had a rep for being the marque defenders on the Cork team and the pillars of the Cork defence. This is based on form years back. In the last 5 years or so, I have lost count of the amount of times, they have been turned inside out and back around sideways by Kerry forwards and made look like novices rather than the experienced defenders on the team. This trend has extended to lesser opposition than Kerry. The other backs have looked better than them

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downhill rapidly for Cork & Down since they contested that all Ireland senior final a few years back

Have Down had any half decent minor & 21 sides I wonder? Nembo surely knows

No they haven’t. Are you telling me Colm O’ Driscoll is a better footballer or defender than Shields?

They are being opened because of a shit set up and no protection in an era of new rules. James Loughrey, Barry O’Driscoll and Kevin O’Driscoll were their half back line the day down the Pairce. None of them were ever half backs. Having guys like Ruiri Deane at midfield where are you going.

No doubt Shields is not the player he was, but he was totally ruined and restricted by management after management. He was a half back put in full back being protected by corner forwards, wing forwards and corner backs outside him pretending (through no fault of their own) to be half backs.

Modern football is team based and unit based. Its not 1v1 where a bit of cuteness or dirt is allowed.
Look at how defensive Kerry have got.

Look he is not going to make a difference anyway, too many things wrong. I see the Cork players alot, they are just going thru the motions. There is no enjoyment in being an IC player for them.

Any management that picks Paul Kerrigan as captain has to be wondered about.

But Corks woes are way deeper that the CB or management or players or whatever. There is a cultural issue at play.

No. They have been absolute garbage at underage since Clarke, McKernan and a few others nearly won an u21 about 10 years back.

Shur 'twas a soft All Ireland

Looking softer every year

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