2017 RBS 6 Nations

[flattythehurdler]

Ginger mcloughlin.

[GeoffreyBoycott]

@Sidney

From an Irish point of view, while the Grand Slam, the Triple Crown and the championship are all now out of reach, and the Centenary Quaich was also lost in disappointing fashion, there’s still the small matter of the Millennium Trophy to play for next Saturday.

Its a very similar scenario to the 2011 season. In 2011 in the fourth round of games Ireland went to Cardiff needing a win to set up a championship decider on the last day at Lansdowne Road against an England side likely to be chasing a Grand Slam. Ireland just like 2011, lost in Cardiff and again six years ago after the Irish loss in Cardiff, England duly wrapped up the Championship with a weekend to spare winning the Calcutta Cup game against Scotland and then came to Dublin for the final leg of a Grand Slam. Ireland comprehensively denied England a Grand Slam, winning 20-8.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

answer Nembo’s question please

[GeoffreyBoycott]

@Nembo_Kid

I’m proffering the hypocrisy you apply when it comes to tradition.

@Nembo_Kid

why can’t you be honest with the forum?

You should practice that you preach. You talk about honesty to the forum, yet you persist in dishonestly pedalling lies. You’re hypocrisy knows no bounds.

@Nembo_Kid

You constantly refer to sides who are without All Irelands in 30 odd years plus as being traditional GAA superpowers, the fact is they are irrelevant in the modern context of the game.

@Nembo_Kid

Bizarre logic from the man who cites the likes of Cavan, Offaly and Roscommon as big names in modern day GAA big names despite the fact they’ve done fuck all in the past 30 odd years.

I’ll give you another opportunity to answer the question and set the record straight about the blatant lies you are telling. Point out where I stated that Cavan, Offaly and Roscommon were big names in modern day GAA.

@Manuel_Zelaya

Demographics is a factor at play when it comes to the current state of former traditional powers like Roscommon, Offaly and Cavan. They are the only three counties with populations of less than 100,000 to reach an All Ireland Football final in the last 80 years. Roscommon has a population of about 63,000 which is about 10,000 less than both Cavan and Offaly. Only Leitrim, Carlow, Longford and Monaghan are more sparsely populated.

[Nembo_Kid]

Be honest to the forum Geoff and answer the question.

Why are you referencing Manuel Zelaya in this argument? He has nothing to do with you and this debate, nowhere before now have you repeated those views of Manuel.

[GeoffreyBoycott]

@Nembo_Kid

Be honest to the forum Geoff and answer the question. Why are you referencing Manuel Zelaya in this argument? He has nothing to do with you and this debate, nowhere before now have you repeated those views of Manuel.

Manuel Zelaya and @GeoffreyBoycott are one and the same. When the forum relaunched, for whatever reason Manuel Zelaya ID no longer worked, and it wouldn’t allow me set it up again. I had no option but to relaunch and did so as @GeoffreyBoycott.

You were clearly under that impression that I formerly posted as Manuel Zelaya. How else do you explain directing jibes about marathon running at @GeoffreyBoycott when it was the poster Manuel Zelaya who pulled out of the Dublin marathon in 2014.

@Manuel_Zelaya

I’m afraid I cried off late. Bit of a bug last few days which had got even worse when I woke up this morning.

@Nembo_Kid

Boycott answered a question that wasn’t asked and refused to address it when called up on it. He’s been running ever since which is ironic for a guy who shit a marathon.

[GeoffreyBoycott]

Now that I’ve clarified that, you might direct us to posts from either Manuel Zelaya or @GeoffreyBoycott where I cited Cavan, Roscommon and Offaly as big names in modern day GAA.

@Nembo_Kid

Bizarre logic from the man who cites the likes of Cavan, Offaly and Roscommon as big names in modern day GAA big names despite the fact they’ve done fuck all in the past 30 odd years.

@Manuel_Zelaya

Demographics is a factor at play when it comes to the current state of former traditional powers like Roscommon, Offaly and Cavan. They are the only three counties with populations of less than 100,000 to reach an All Ireland Football final in the last 80 years. Roscommon has a population of about 63,000 which is about 10,000 less than both Cavan and Offaly. Only Leitrim, Carlow, Longford and Monaghan are more sparsely populated.

[Nembo_Kid]

It’s convenient this is the first time you have disclosed this.

Oxymorons by a third poster are completely irrelevant to this matter.

You need to be honest with the forum and tell is why tradition is everything on one hand and means nothing on the other.

You can’t just pick and choose when to apply your rationale, it has to be consistent and you need to be honest with the forum.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

is geoff, manuel or wriggley disregarding tradition now? wtf

isnt he always slagging Chelsea about having no tradition?

[Tassotti]

it really is something to witness 2 master debaters going toe to toe

[Nembo_Kid]

I’d love to know what “former traditional” encompasses.

Boycott/Zelaya has a unique talent to contradict himself in two consecutive words.

[GeoffreyBoycott]

@Nembo_Kid

It’s convenient this is the first time you have disclosed this.

Why have you repeatedly over the past two years directed comments about marathon running to @GeoffreyBoycott if you didn’t believe that I was one and the same as Manuel Zelaya? It was Manuel Zelaya poster who pulled out of the marathon.

@Nembo_Kid

You need to be honest with the forum and tell is why tradition is everything on one hand and means nothing on the other.

You need to honest with the forum and post up the reference you allege I made to Cavan, Offaly and Roscommon as big names in modern day GAA. I never said that. Either you accept my word on that and retract your comment and apologise or put up the post where you say, I said it.

[Nembo_Kid]

@GeoffreyBoycott

Roscommon have an extroverted manager from Kerry who talks them up. He was the same in Tipperary, talking about transforming Tipperary into All Ireland contenders. When it comes to gaelic football, Kerry people don’t suffer from a lack of confidence or low expectations and demands. That seems to me, to be where the Roscommon PR machine starts and ends. Roscommon are about a once a decade Connacht winning county. As I’ve said Sligo v Roscommon is as close as you’ll get to an even match in championship football. A 5/5 split from their last 10 meetings over the last 35 years bears that out and in population terms they’re pretty evenly matched too - Sligo is the 26th most populous of the 32 counties and Roscommon the 27th.
If Roscommon have a tendency to talk themselves up a bit, its down to their tradition, they won All Ireland’s in the 40’s and were All Ireland finalists in 1962 and 1980. Counties with tradition do that. Cavan and Down people are not slow about telling you about all their All Ireland’s and Ulster titles, even though in Cavan’s case you’re going back over half a century to the last time Cavan were a national force

[GeoffreyBoycott]

Stay on point. I’ll ask the question yet again. Post up where I said Cavan, Offaly and Roscommon were big names in modern day GAA.

@Nembo_Kid

Bizarre logic from the man who cites the likes of Cavan, Offaly and Roscommon as big names in modern day GAA big names despite the fact they’ve done fuck all in the past 30 odd years.

[Nembo_Kid]

Be honest with the forum Geoff.

Why does tradition now no longer matter to you?

I won’t be put off point by your side issues, we need to clarify why you suddenly drop your code of principles when different parties are involved.

[carryharry]

Why did he pull out of the Marathon? Was it a bad training injury?

[the_man_himself]

Did you read the post you just quoted?

[carryharry]

Yes, my question still stands.

[dodgy_keeper]

@GeoffreyBoycott

@Nembo_Kid

Be honest to the forum Geoff and answer the question. Why are you referencing Manuel Zelaya in this argument? He has nothing to do with you and this debate, nowhere before now have you repeated those views of Manuel.

Manuel Zelaya and @GeoffreyBoycott are one and the same. When the forum relaunched, for whatever reason Manuel Zelaya ID no longer worked, and it wouldn’t allow me set it up again. I had no option but to relaunch and did so as @GeoffreyBoycott.

You were clearly under that impression that I formerly posted as Manuel Zelaya. How else do you explain directing jibes about marathon running at @GeoffreyBoycott when it was the poster Manuel Zelaya who pulled out of the Dublin marathon in 2014.

@Manuel_Zelaya

I’m afraid I cried off late. Bit of a bug last few days which had got even worse when I woke up this morning.

@Nembo_Kid

Boycott answered a question that wasn’t asked and refused to address it when called up on it. He’s been running ever since which is ironic for a guy who shit a marathon.

FAO of @Fran

[Piles_Hussain]