Imagine all 4 were KOd today. Now that would have made for a box office day of football
Is this in the rule book? I donât think it mentions cynical in the rule book at all
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No way Westmeath would have been playing as hard if third didnât get through
However, a pull-back rather than a pull down, or any tackle worthy of a red card that occurs outside the large rectangle, would only lead to a free-kick being awarded rather than a penalty.
That was the guidance given, seems fairly clear-cut in this situation that the referee got it right.
Cynical is mentioned loads in the rulebook and clearly defined, the Westmeath manâs challenge doesnât fall under it at all.
Except today Westmeath appeared to be deprived of a match winning point with the last kick of the game. Footage seems to show that it was over. The officials helped Tyroneâs cause in that instance.
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It does fall under it. Itâs a clear cut black card and penalty. One of a series of scandalous calls by Mooney that went against Tyrone.
I know itâs a bad day for you after you were bigging up the Connacht counties and running down the Ulster ones on the basis of the league. The serious stuff starts now.
5/5 Ulster teams advanced from the groups, 2 directly into the last 8 as group winners.
2 of the last 4 in the Tailteann are also Ulster sides.
No they didnât. They hit it wide.
Westmeath were kept in the game by a scandalous officiating performance. All weâre looking for is a fair crack and consistency but that seems to be too much for the Free State mafia to concede.
Donât be muddying the waters now. You started by saying it didnât need to be a black card challenge, just a cynical foul. Now you say the challenge was a clear cut black card. Which is it? The facts are the referee got it correct regardless of whatever whinging there may be from the poorly informed.
Westmeath, Tailteann cup winners last year, lost to Armagh in Armagh by a point and a very marginal umpire call today saved Tyrone from being eliminated by them. My suggestion that Ulster is competitive but of a poor standard stands up to scrutiny going by that form. Westmeath were knocked out by Louth in their opening game in the Leinster championship.
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Itâs a cynical foul to deny a goalscoring opportunity. Itâs a black card and penalty.
The referee was as bad as Iâve seen today and clearly exercising an agenda against Tyrone. There was a free given against. There were about 5 phantom frees awarded in that second half. He single handedly kept Westmeath in that game.
Iâm not muddying the waters either. You were bigging up Connacht football and running down Ulster football on the basis of the league. I understand why you are embarrassed by this but you should admit you were wrong.
The rulebook defines what a cynical foul is, and that a pull back is not a cynical foul. No amount of whinging or wishing otherwise changes the facts.
The rulebook says that a cynical foul denying a goalscoring opportunity is a black card.
That was a cynical foul denying a clear goal scoring opportunity.
You keep wishing to gloss over the fact that Ulster football is remarkably better than the Connacht football you were embarrassingly trying to hype up.
Remember when you were saying minor football in Ulster was a joke before the two Ulster teams battered the Connacht ones last week? You are the GAA version of Comical Ali.
Penalties in All-Ireland finals between Wee Six teams and 26 county teams:
Wee Six 7 (Armagh 1953, Down 1960, Armagh 1977, Armagh 1977, Tyrone 1986, Armagh 2002, Tyrone 2018)
26 Counties 4 (Kerry 1986, Dublin 1994, Dublin 2018, Mayo 2021)
Nobody is arguing different.
Not according to the rulebook. A pullback is not a cynical foul - a deliberate trip or pull down is a cynical foul. Had that âcynical foulâ happened out the field it wouldnât have been given a black card, therefore it is not a black card anywhere on the field. Be delighted that ye got the rub of the green on the key marginal decision from the officials today, sure tis many a day a decision probably went against ye.
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Those games only exist in your imagination as there are no such teams.
The NI teams have a wonderful victim complex that they use to fuel their run to being knocked out before the business end of things. Itâs the washed daysel of sports psychology.
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The rule says a cynical foul that prevents a goal scoring opportunity is a black card and penalty.
That was a cynical foul that prevented a goalscoring opportunity. You seem to have a severe bias at play here. Is it bitterness?
Nope they are reality. You are so used to only winning by having the arbitrators bought that you are incapable of viewing things objectively.
Your hero Joe Brolly called out Tyrone for what they were which ironically led to the black card.