A considered debate on the Sinn Féin vote in Donegal

Nope. They weren’t elected as members of Fianna Fail, Coughlan and McDaid were not FFers with strong republican ties.

Just perusing this thread for the first time now. Its a most amusing read.

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The Donegal electorate electrified by the return of Pat the Cope. McConalogue elected on the 1st count. Two seats from two candidates for Fianna Fail and looking increasingly likely to be just one from three for Sinn Fein. Sinn Fein have made an utter mess of Donegal.

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I don’t think they had the support to get three elected in Donegal.

What really fucked their strategy was the emergence of more strong Independents.

@croppy_boy

That doesn’t seem like anti-government to me? Why change your tune?

Oh dear.

@Nembo_Kid keep the points in here to avoid clogging up the other board with your ranting.

I never said there was a swing from SF. Not one did I say that.

The point being made is that the surge in FF support is coming from FG/Labour support not from a traditional republican support base.

Call it establishment or government or whatever the fuck you want but it not a republican vote for FF that saw them making gains this time.

I’m away to Ballybofey for the hand but I’ll have a closer look at what cost SF in their three candidate strategy. I reckon it was Shiels and Jackson polling well but I won’t see numbers until tomorrow.

SF have captured the traditional republican base, in case you didn’t notice republican candidates have polled 36% of first pref votes in Donegal.

FF were in government buddy.

The Donegal vote is still down a significant amount from 2007. They have lost a good chunk of a vote to Sinn Fein, they didn’t get it back this time, they got back the vote they lost to FG and Labour.

Do me a favour and decide which tune your really singing.

I’ll look at the numbers when I get a chance tomorrow.

Enjoy the count today.

My tune is consistent. SF have taken a chunk of the traditional republican vote which usually went to FF, that vote is there to stay with SF.

You’re the guy who has been caught out on lies, refuses to accept facts that substantiate causes. You said that the vote was anti-establishment and backtracked then to anti-government as the whole basis of your initial argument was flawed. You then got proven out to be a liar, in the most explicit of circumstances.

Right now that you’ve established what you’re trying to argue, in a complete scatter-gun manner, I’ll address it tomorrow when I have all the numbers.

In the meantime relax and enjoy your Sunday, try not to get yourself too worked up if you can help it.

How dumb are you?

My argument has been that there has always been a traditional republican vote in Donegal that would previously have voted FF, SF have now captured this vote. Donegal would traditionally have had over a 50% share in Donegal, this is down to about 30% now and SF have been the benefactors of that vote.

Look you’ve put it here now and I’ll address it tomorrow when I have time.

I’m away now to bask in the loveliness of the day at hand.

Donegal is a political and social wasteland, chocabloc with unemployed republican simpletons… Even at that SF ira can’t hobble together enough rastoolers.

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It was incredible hubris on the part of Sinn Fein in Donegal. They only got 19% of the vote in the 2014 locals. How the hell to you make three seats out of that? In fairness to Pearse Doherty, I do recall him expressing some misgivings at the time when the decision was made to run three.

The guy that got in ahead of them supports the dissidents

Yet even more bad news for Sinn Fein

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Why didn’t ye have him ‘disappear’ ?