Did you make a point that you were expecting or hoping Iād counter? Blabbering on about the act of Union ā¦ The change of hour has done you .
You really should be exported to Africa as an antidote to drought.
You havenāt even engaged with what @RaymondCrotty said there, youāve just gone off on one yourself. He was talking about the southern treatment of northern nationalists and unionists and said that we need an Ireland where all traditions are respected. Youāve given a response attacking loyalism as evil, which is hardly controversial and hardly something that Raymond Crofty doesnāt know. You seem to think that we shouldnāt have an Ireland where the unionist traditions are respected.
You are talking shite, typically.
You do not respect a tradition by pretending it is something it is not ā namely, democratic.
But by all means fluff away to your heartās content. Just do not expect anyone with a sliver of wit to think you are one step above morons such as Tommy Conlon.
I feel like an unwanted child watching his parents screaming at one another.
Please stop.
Do yourself a favour and put away your secondary school history books and go get some air.
@Malarkey is the stupidest cunt on TFK, heās the poster who knows the least about life and about himself.
Malarkey 's very odd and sinister comment to @Tim_Riggins about what is "sensible"
A few months ago he burst onto the coronavirus thread like a fart in an airplane and started attacking anyone making anti-lockdown arguments as a far-right corporate shill, a psychopath, etc. This led naturally into an argument with Tim, whom he dismissed, partially on the grounds that Tim was too posh and rich. In the course of this Malarkey threw out a very strange and sinister comment. Tim wanted a country where the rugby boys were on top, he said, but Malarkey wanted a culture founded on garlic and hurling and any āsensibleā person would agree with him.
@Malarkey, I know you probably donāt even remember the comment but thatās just not what āsensibleā means. For starters why would the private school boys sensibly want to give up their privilege? Thatās the opposite of sensible. Secondly, itās a regular enough occurrence in corporate Dublin for big deals to close in the vip lounges and corporate boxes of the Aviva/Lansdowne during big rugby games (Iām not making this up). Sensibly when I arrived in Dublin first I should have started following rugby. The reason I didnāt is because Iām not an entirely sensible character so I stuck with the gga and BIG and didnāt completely integrate. But fundamentally thereās no real reason why gaelic culture is inherently better than anglo-saxon culture or why nationalists have an inherently superior culture to unionists. There are obviously enormous historical immoralities with unionism but thatās just history.
Your āsensibleā comment reminded me of the old Derek Mahon poem, āAs It Should Beā
"We hunted the mad bastard
Through bog, moorland, rock, to the star-lit west
And gunned him down in a blind yard
Between ten sleeping lorries
And an electricity generator.
Let us hear no idle talk
Of the moon in the Yellow River.
The air blows softer since his departure.
Since his tide burial during school hours
Our kiddies have known no bad dreams.
Their cries echo lightly along the coast.
This is as it should be.
They will thank us for it when they grow up
To a world with method in it."
Anyone who disagrees with us are basically insane.
Malarkeyās laughable and utterly delusional belief that he could have had a long career with the Irish Times
The funniest thing youāve ever posted was your story about how Tom Humphries ruined your career at the Irish Times. Let me tell you this straight pal: you are extremely bigoted against Unionist and Tipperary people. You could never, ever, ever have had a long career in the Irish Times. You are utterly deluded about yourself and the world if you think that was ever possible. F Scott Fitzgerald said that by aged 30 a man must know exactly what heās capable and not capable of. You donāt and youāre a failure.
I should say myself, following on from my āI didnt get into rugby because Iām not completely sensibleā comment that I have personally come to accept that there are certain places and organisations in this country that I respect and where I would make a lot of money but just arenāt a good fit for me and where I would be unhappy in the long run. Iāve also made some small pragmatic changes to myself and to my outlook. Iāve listened to the people Iāve met and Iāve come to understand, respect and even like them on their own terms. But at least Iāve studied myself and the world and come to accept it all. Youāve just invented some hilariously bullshit story about how you could have made it big and been successful acting a complete cunt and never having to change or learn only for Tom Humphries fucked you over. Youāre a joke pal. Grow up.
A short note on John Rawls
You have a habit of just saying āJohn Rawlsā like it wins any debate about balancing rights. Iām not going to get into an in-depth discussion on A Theory Of Justice because it would go on gor thousands of words but it does not. There are even chapters in A Theory of Justice that specifically deal with and justify civil disobedience. Fundamentally though, we are not dividing this cake of Irish society from a blind initial standpoint. You knkw perfectly wellbefore we start that youāre a grumpy old cunt with no interest at your age in meeting people or starting a family. You just donāt care if thise rights are impinges because you personally donāt need them.
To summarise, FOAD.
It was a good piece from Brolly. He was bang on about our ignorance of daily life for a nationalist up there and instead we focus on SF/Ira to wash away the guilt.
Hard to believe he never voted SF though considering his auld lad was a councillor
I think everyone sees who has a hand me down version of Irish history. You cannot even grasp the implications of that point about the Act of Union because your āmindā is geared to clichĆ©. You might read Patrick Wormald on the foundations of English/British law. Not that you would.
I suppose you could call it frightening someone like you teaches History. But what ultimate matter, even though you would be better deployed to Africa. Vicious mediocrity is omnipresent and āSinn FĆ©in will be the largest partyā¦ Etc, etcā¦ā
Oh dear.
I enjoyed reading that shite, which makes a change.
Stick to The Dimster. He is your level, just about.
Bula bos, so to speak.
Knowing all we do about Joe, itās not even remotely hard to believe
Youāve jumped in here and invented an argument I never made. Iām not contesting anything youāve said about the act of Union, nor did I read half of what you wrote to be honestā¦who does? We, or at least I, was talking something more abstract than the political or geographical nature of the country. We were talking about Irish identity you ham and how Southerners seem to think they own the monopoly on what constitutes Irishnessā¦as usual, this is just an exercise of you jumping in to show how clever you think you are.
FYI @Tank, I will be saving any further comments on a United Ireland until after the Covid-19 vaccine rollout is completed and the conclusion of the British Lions tour to South Africa. Iāve too much going on the INTERNET at the moment to get into this shitfight.
Malarkey in fairness to you you obviously are a bit older than a lot of lads here and sustained a serious pain in your hole listening to the revisionist Kevin myers conor cruise o brien declan lynch view of history and Irishness as a younger man. Its not a very common view at all any more though. You seem to think tank Thomas Brady and Raymond crottys points had something to do with it when they were nothing of the sort. Youāre arguing with and criticising what you wanted them to say not what they actually said.
Thats a proper DāArcy right there
Everyone of us would agree that Loyalists and extreme unionism is a horrid institutionā¦ Weāve all moved on from that old shtick and realize thereās an emerging middle ground up north and to meet it fairly we have to address some of our own shortcomings, we canāt have it all our own way.
I disagree strongly with this. Unionist ācultureā is a short-lived and short term anachronism built upon negativity and hate. Sensible moderate kind people are not embedded other than superficially in it (a bit like going to mass on Christmas day for some reason you canāt quite fathom yourself)
Irish, or the southern Irish have an irritating propensity to intimate that their culture is better than anyoneās, which it aināt, but itās as good as most.
As an aside, thatās an excellent article from Joe Brolly, the best he has written in years in my opinion.
I think theyāll struggle to get the Tories to continue paying for NI long term. The Tories have no interest in fairness.
Not all unionists buy in to the absolute version of it tho.
We would build a team around Steven Davis & Kyle Lafferty
Great post .