We badly need to get rid of this phrase from public discourse.
Itās a debasement of the English language.
Iād venture that legislation for āexceptionsā would likely be picked apart by the Supreme Court under the right to privacy?
Really? Iām not mad about it at all. I know itās not entirely rational but Iād be of the opinion that most of them can fuck off. If youāve decided to live elsewhere then work away at making there a better place.
Not 100% sure what you mean by legislation for exceptions mate. At the moment there can be no legislation for hard cases because of the 8th.
Are you suggesting that if there was no 8th then very restrictive laws on abortion might be unconstitutional in the same way the ban on contraception within marriage was found to be unconstitutional as against the right to privacy in McGee? Theoretically, but Iāve never thought about it. I donāt think thereās any realistic possibility of a Roe v Wade in this country though.
Thanks mate
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Really? One of unstated but very clear policies during recession was to allow/encourage people to leave, itās the only reason unemployment wasnāt at Spain levels. Itās been the same in previous generations. A lot of those people never wanted to leave and always wanted to return when it became possible (thatās happening now, 26k returned last year). Iād be all in favour of them having a say in the country they are still invested in and want to live in. Iād give votes to emigrants up to 5 years or so away.
Yes really. When I was away I felt like it wasnāt right for me to vote because I didnāt have to deal with the shit. I kind of think if youāre gone youāre gone and fuck off. Iāve got some mates who are still abroad who like to have a go at stuff here and I donāt really have any time for it. Not entirely rational maybe but thatās how I feel.
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What I mean by āexceptionsā is if the 8th Amendment was abolished and there was legislation for abortion only in cases of rape/incest/fatal foetal abnormaility etc - which is what some people have suggested - not me obviously.
Yes. The āPro-Life Amendment Committeeā was set up to get what would become the 8th Amendment put into the constitution specifically to stop the possibility of an Irish Roe v Wade. The McGee case originally prompted it. William Binchy was one of the first, if not the first, to point to the McGee precedent as opening such a possibility, in 1976. Iām not a lawyer so canāt say what that real possibility was, but it was a big fear among anti-abortionists.
Iām just leaving this here. Mullen makes my skin crawl.
And Iāll leave this here too.
As well as being the first place, itās also the last place youāll hear about Mr. Quinnās idea.
Up early now @Matty_Hislop making sure Iām the first to vote No In this genocidal election. Iv two votes and Il cast both as no.
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A sample of some of the literature that the Life Institute on Gardiner Street sends to schools (Got these off a teacher on another forum)
Medical negligence.
They felt there was absolutely nothing wrong with her, you spoof. They did not diagnose her Sepsis despite the fact the indications were clear she had Sepsis.
The HSE settled a medical negligence case with her husband.
Donāt listen to him.
Heās telling outright lies. The medical team were completely at fault, it was not a case of the medical team being crippled by constitution, it was a case of them failing to spot very clear and obvious signs that the mother was very ill.
It was another case of extraordinarily medical negligence from the medical team and yet another case of medical negligence costings lives in the basket case that is the HSE.
Its why many doctors want abortion. Less accountability in their jobs. When they get the mother to commit to killing her baby, theyāre off the hook.
The soft cases are the widespread murders of innocent unborn children for any reason at all.
Bad calls in any facet of a doctors profession threaten them with prison. Itās a highly skilled job which requires extensive training and knowledge. They earn big bucks for it.
Killing unborn children to make their work easier is heinous.
