Well duh
Apart from the Irish famine
Although as we all know that wasnât actually a genocide
So I guess your point holds
You were first with the stone throwing, unsurprising I suppose. Good to see Australia joining the rest of the developed world in 2018, even if individual state laws are all over the map. In contrast abortion is a constitutional right in all US states and has been so since 1973.
I didnât because it wasnât and stop with the whataboutery. This child should still be alive but the parents selfishly decided that his life wasnât worth living because he potentially had a disability.
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The guy who ran the investigation specifically stated the 8th Amendment was responsible for Savitaâs death
It was a foetus not a child
Take it up with the Irish people who voted in a landslide for choice
Democracy won
Batt is lashing out all round him, heâll need to sit the family down and tell them whatâs what
Many who voted yes, specifically did not want to see this happen. Your resorting to the gloating of the most rabid of the yes side disappoints me, I thought you were better than that.
I said it during and after the campaign, the pro-aborts played a blinder. They concentrated on the hard cases and with a compliant media it was the only message that got through. What they wanted was what they got, abortion without restriction on demand.
Just for the record, that baby would have felt pain as he was suctioned down a tube in the name of âchoiceâ. I hope the parents are happy and that the surgical team get sacked.
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The 8th Amendment was all about the hard cases
Bad law makes hard cases
A 15 week old foetus cannot feel pain
It cannot feel anything
So much stupid in one post.
Incorrect on pain, the consensus in the medical and scientific community is that a fetus cannot feel pain until the third semester, so at least 27 weeks.
Why would the surgical team get sacked? They acted on the request of the parents who have the legal right to request an abortion. Most babies with Edwards syndrome die before or just shortly after birth.
Your comment on the parents being âhappyâ is simply disgusting.
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Thatâs not what happened. They were told it would die horribly immediately after birth. They were misadvised. They made a painful decision to end the pregnancy based on that wrong advice and are now pissed off because they never wanted to do that.
Wrong. I researched this point thoroughly during the referendum because it was important to me. The great majority of scientists say pain after 20+ weeks. The most radical âearly painâ theory comes from a female scientist in England who thinks 16 weeks is a possibility. The great majority of scientists reject this view. Even if it was true the foetus in this case still wouldnât have felt anything.
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Same is a person in a coma so. Youâd be surprised how similar a 15 week old fetus is to a human.
Couple seeks nearly âŹ3m debt write-down
High Court told coupleâs financial woes linked to unpaid music royalties from US
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Theresa Lowe and Frank McNamara owe almost âŹ2.3 million on their home
SIMON CARSWELL
Musician Frank McNamara and his wife, television presenter-turned-barrister Theresa Lowe, are seeking a debt write-down of nearly âŹ3 million from the High Court to escape their financial troubles.
The couple are looking for a financial rescue in the form of a court-approved personal insolvency arrangement on total debts amounting to âŹ3.7 million over the objection of their biggest creditor.
The court heard Mr McNamara lost income in the US from his work as an orchestral conductor and music composer, and the Co Meath-based couple borrowed to help them through what they believed were temporary financial difficulties.
US private equity firm Tanager, a so-called vulture fund which bought the coupleâs mortgage debt from Bank of Scotland (Ireland), is seeking to block the plan as it would see more than âŹ1.7 million of its debt written off.
The fund, owned by US private equity giant Apollo Global Management, is being offered a lump sum payment of âŹ100,000 by the couple to go towards a new, written-down mortgage of âŹ550,000 on their house in Dunshauglin. The couple currently owe almost âŹ2.3 million on the four-bedroom family home.
Mr Justice Denis McDonald heard the difficulties arose for Mr McNamara (59), who was the music director of RTĂâs Late Late Show for 20 years, from US music royalty payments of $987,000 going unpaid. In total, he claims to be owed âŹ1.237 million in unpaid payments for his work as a conductor and composer. Mr McNamara was the arranger and producer for two consecutive Irish winners of the Eurovision Song Contest.
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Ms Lowe (56), a well known figure from her work on TV and radio, presented the TV quiz Where In The World? in the late 1980s and early 1990s and studied law at the time at Kingâs Inns in Dublin. The couple, who are both self-employed and have two dependent children, are seeking a six-year personal insolvency arrangement under which they would write off about âŹ2.9 million of debt. They are offering to make âŹ236,000 available to their creditors from Mr McNamaraâs inheritance and the disposal of five acres of land next to their home.
The court heard the couple remortgaged and sold a number of buy-to-let properties when they found themselves in financial trouble and were left owing âŹ530,000 in residual debt to Bank of Ireland.
Keith Farry, for the couple, told the court that Mr McNamara had been making âvery substantial incomeâ from his work as a music conductor in the US. He said that Mr McNamara ran unsuccessfully in Dublin South Central in the 2007 general election, adding to his financial difficulties.
The recession added to the coupleâs problems and Mr McNamara could not afford to travel to the US as the orchestras employing him could no longer pay travel and accommodation expenses.
Rudi Neuman Shanahan, for Tanager, questioned why Mr McNamaraâs difficulties dating back 16 years were being cited in support of the arrangement and queried whether the couple could work until 78 and 75 respectively.
The case continues.
I may stand corrected on pain but there is no absolute evidence of a foetus being able to feel pain or not.
Disgusting. Not half as disgusting as having your baby suctioned down a surgical hose I suppose.
Vamos
A sad, sad day for Argentinians.
Il Papa will be furious.
Heâs too busy at the moment considering his response to Sean Quinnâs missive to notice
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Nearly 7000 murders
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