Abortion Referendum Thread

[Matty_Hislop]

I’m campaigning for nothing.

I’m merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the No headbangers who claim to care about children but have no problem upsetting them with their vile, targeted propaganda.

Can you not get your thick skull around that?

[backinatracksuit]

The RA/Catholic Church crowd on her are gas cunts altogether with their think of the children stuff

[Matty_Hislop]

@thedancingbaby

Yet you want to deny some children the chance to even get to play the Peppa Pig game

No, I don’t, all children should be free to play the game if they want to.

[anon61956325]

Ra? What does that even mean?

[anon7035031]

Regardless of the cognitive dissonance of those who deny it, the only reason people in the ROI would vote no is because of the historical influence of the Roman Catholic church, regardless of whether they are currently practicing Catholics or not. Where the fuck do you think they got their beliefs on abortion from?

Think through what those who vote no are saying. It is perfectly legal for any Irish woman today to terminate a pregnancy, up to 24 weeks. In this context, what the fuck is the point of the 8th amendment? Only someone detached from critical thinking and reason could vote no, in other words someone who’s mind is still inhabited by religious nonsense.

[Enrique]

The number of abortions will increase if it is repealed. Are you completely ignoring that? We get it, there is nothing (except finances) stopping a woman from getting a plane to the UK. If abortion is legalised here as proposed, the number of abortions will skyrocket. There is no denying that.

[Sidney]

@Enrique

We get it, there is nothing (except finances) stopping a woman from getting a plane to the UK.

It’s €34 return from Dublin to Manchester on a plane.

[artfoley]

@anon7035031

No, in this case @Sidney is right.

The only groups who oppose abortion, in the fashion the no campaign in Ireland do, are (i) the Roman Catholic headbangers, (ii) the extreme headbanger wings of Protestant churches, Lutherans and southern Baptists, etc, and (iii) the utterly insane Mormans.

Which group are you a member of?

Actually there’s groups of atheists and agnostics who see the right to life as trumping the right to choose and see abortion as morally reprehensible. But there you go

[artfoley]

@anon7035031

Think through what those who vote no are saying. It is perfectly legal for any Irish woman today to terminate a pregnancy, up to 24 weeks. In this context, what the fuck is the point of the 8th amendment? Only someone detached from critical thinking and reason could vote no, in other words someone who’s mind is still inhabited by religious nonsense

The 8th as it stood would have been ok. The issue was the x case when the supreme Court went overboard.

[anon7035031]

@Enrique

The number of abortions will increase if it is repealed. Are you completely ignoring that? We get it, there is nothing (except finances) stopping a woman from getting a plane to the UK. If abortion is legalised here as proposed, the number of abortions will skyrocket. There is no denying that.

There is denying that. Take the US for example, the abortion rate has been dropping since 1980, and is now below the rate in 1973 when Roe v Wade was decided. The concept that women will go mad for abortions if the 8th is repealed is not backed up by any evidence.

[Enrique]

Mate, if I didn’t put in that disclaimer a headbanger like yourself would be wailing that money or lack thereof stops less well off/poorer people from travelling to access it.

[anon7035031]

I’m aware of that, it’s a very small subset, and I doubt atheist thinking has much of an influence on beliefs in Ireland.

[Sidney]

It’s alright, mate, another “headbanger” had already made that point.

[Sidney]

@artfoley

Actually there’s groups of atheists and agnostics who see the right to life as trumping the right to choose and see abortion as morally reprehensible. But there you go

Only one campaign is attempting to impose its version of morality on everybody else.

Hint: It’s the “No” campaign.

[artfoley]

@Sidney

Only one campaign is attempting to impose its version of morality on everybody else.

Hint: It’s the “No” campaign

The right to life is top Trump’s when it comes to rights. All other rights flow from it.

[artfoley]

@anon7035031

I’m aware of that, it’s a very small subset, and I doubt atheist thinking has much of an influence on beliefs in Ireland

Your previous post indicated no such awareness.

[Sidney]

@artfoley

The right to life is top Trump’s when it comes to rights. All other rights flow from it.

Says the poster that’s pro-death penalty…

[Enrique]

I read the USA today report on those numbers. It has taken 40 odd years for it to drop to that level.

I am not arguing the morals of it with you here. I am saying you need your head examined if you think abortion numbers will not increase dramatically should repeal win.

[artfoley]

@Sidney

Says the poster that’s pro-death penalty…

And I’m pro abortion too. I just like the dishonesty of the campaign.

But you keep campaigning to keep those murderers and rapists alive.

#repealthe21st

[anon7035031]

As an agnostic atheist I am well aware of it. You don’t appear to be able to distinguish the difference between holding a personal moral position and seeking to legally impose your moral position on others. Only the subset of religious groups I mentioned, their followers, and those influenced by them do the latter.

Are there atheist groups in Ireland campaigning for a no vote?